----- Original Message ----- From: byk - byk@xxxxxxxxxxxx I think that Chaya Ovnat has expressed perfectly why there should be reservations about the HOTS /literature or literature /HOTS program, and Esther Revivo has once again pointed out the problems it poses in practice. I love books and literature. My family and I have just spent a good part of Saturday going over Browning's My Last Duchess, and Donne's 'Death Be Not Proud', but I don't think we have the time or the necessity to do this sort of thing with the average pupil, because, though I hate to say this, it does come at the expense of learning basic English , Chaya's "essential prerequisites." This is not to say that average or weak students should not be taught literature, but it must be carefully chosen, and certainly not through meta-learning, and not at the expense of learning the language. This is not Europe, where language learning is often more of an acquaintance with how foreign languages work, so that it will ease study at a later point in life of a particular language. Here, our pupils need to know the actual language, and I sometimes think that MOE has forgotten this. Jennifer Byk ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------