If there was less pressure (that is - less notebooks to mark per hour) maybe more teachers would be willing to mark the bagrut. What Bari says about marking all day and night is the reason I have never applied for this. sara g On 6/26/08, maxinetz <maxinetz@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Bari, I agree with you, but while I certainly support lowering the quotas > i.e. raising the salaries, of Bagrut markers, I'm not sure it would make a > difference in the number of notebooks you'd have to mark within three/four > days. Since we'd remain the same number of examiners, and since the > Ministry would like us to finish marking before the end of the summer (??) , > we'd still have 216 notebooks to mark within three/four days. That is, at > least in the short run, until more English teachers join the ranks of > examiners, enticed by the higher pay! > > See you on Tuesday, Maxine Tsvaigrach > > -----Original Message----- > From: etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of Bari Nirenberg > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:08 PM > To: ETNI > Subject: [etni] Re: Fw: re: WITH YOU!!!!! > > I don't see any reason for us to give in in this case. Bagrut marking > isn't anyone's primary source of income. Yes, it does bring in a nice > sum, but I manage to put food in my family's mouth for the rest of the > year without marking Bagrut exams. Personally, I'm sick and tired of > doing what I consider a mediocre job of marking simply because there > are so many exams to mark. I work seven days a week marking (yes, I > mark all day on Shabbat and my religious friends make up for that > missed time by marking at all hours of the day and night -- even at 3 > a.m.) and I still feel very pressured to get it all done, which I > always do, but at a price. I start every single marking period > totally stressed out thinking about the 432 compositions that I'm > expected to mark a week (unseens are generally easier, though not > always). I don't have time to cook or clean my house (as a fellow > marker discovered when she needed to use my bathroom one day before we > headed up to the Marvad). My kids have learned to stay far away from > me, as I'm not pleasant to be around. Why on earth would anyone want > their students' (or children's) exams marked under conditions like > these? > > I'm glad we're finally taking what I hope is a united stand. We spend > years preparing our students to take these exams and they deserve to > have them marked under appropriate conditions. > > Bari > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Ask_Etni <ask@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda - lsk120@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: Re: WITH YOU!!!!! > > > > I had written to my friends/fellow markers responding to the "Urgent > > Letter", but realized I should have also voiced my feelings on ETNI, to > > show support. > > No dissention here, either! We had better stick together and not make a > fool > > out of ourselves like we did....(finish the sentence)! IF we give in, > we'll > > have only ourselves to blame. > > > > Linda Kuras Mizrahi > > > > > > Judy wrote: > >> > >> Thanks to all of you who wrote in response to the Urgent Message > regarding > > > > marking Bagrut exams this summer - which is imminent. Not one single voice > > of dissention has been heard. > >> > >> Please keep on writing, and come prepared on Tuesday! > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------- > > ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** > > ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** > > ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** > > ----------------------------------------------- > > > > > ----------------------------------------------- > ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org > or - http://www.etni.org.il ** > ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** > ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** > ----------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------------- > ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org > or - http://www.etni.org.il ** > ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** > ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** > ----------------------------------------------- > > -- sara g in israel sarag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx saragabai@xxxxxxxxx Visit us at The E Zone http://clickit3.ort.org.il/ganyavneenglish ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------