[etni] Re: Fw: re: WITH YOU!!!!!
- From: "Bari Nirenberg" <bnirenberg@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: maxinetz <maxinetz@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:12:12 +0300
I certainly hope that this is NOT the case and it's not what I've
understood. The idea is to reduce the amount of marking in order to
improve the quality of marking, not to simply increase pay, or at
least that's how I've understood it. I don't honestly care how all
the exams get marked or how long it takes to mark them -- that's the
Ministry's problem, not mine (and that problem is going to be a lot
worse if we don't start marking next week). If we have to mark past
the end of the summer, so be it, as long as the conditions are more
reasonable than they have been until now.
Bari
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:50 AM, maxinetz <maxinetz@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Bari, I agree with you, but while I certainly support lowering the quotas
> i.e. raising the salaries, of Bagrut markers, I'm not sure it would make a
> difference in the number of notebooks you'd have to mark within three/four
> days. Since we'd remain the same number of examiners, and since the
> Ministry would like us to finish marking before the end of the summer (??) ,
> we'd still have 216 notebooks to mark within three/four days. That is, at
> least in the short run, until more English teachers join the ranks of
> examiners, enticed by the higher pay!
>
> See you on Tuesday, Maxine Tsvaigrach
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Bari Nirenberg
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:08 PM
> To: ETNI
> Subject: [etni] Re: Fw: re: WITH YOU!!!!!
>
> I don't see any reason for us to give in in this case. Bagrut marking
> isn't anyone's primary source of income. Yes, it does bring in a nice
> sum, but I manage to put food in my family's mouth for the rest of the
> year without marking Bagrut exams. Personally, I'm sick and tired of
> doing what I consider a mediocre job of marking simply because there
> are so many exams to mark. I work seven days a week marking (yes, I
> mark all day on Shabbat and my religious friends make up for that
> missed time by marking at all hours of the day and night -- even at 3
> a.m.) and I still feel very pressured to get it all done, which I
> always do, but at a price. I start every single marking period
> totally stressed out thinking about the 432 compositions that I'm
> expected to mark a week (unseens are generally easier, though not
> always). I don't have time to cook or clean my house (as a fellow
> marker discovered when she needed to use my bathroom one day before we
> headed up to the Marvad). My kids have learned to stay far away from
> me, as I'm not pleasant to be around. Why on earth would anyone want
> their students' (or children's) exams marked under conditions like
> these?
>
> I'm glad we're finally taking what I hope is a united stand. We spend
> years preparing our students to take these exams and they deserve to
> have them marked under appropriate conditions.
>
> Bari
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Ask_Etni <ask@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda - lsk120@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: WITH YOU!!!!!
>>
>> I had written to my friends/fellow markers responding to the "Urgent
>> Letter", but realized I should have also voiced my feelings on ETNI, to
>> show support.
>> No dissention here, either! We had better stick together and not make a
> fool
>> out of ourselves like we did....(finish the sentence)! IF we give in,
> we'll
>> have only ourselves to blame.
>>
>> Linda Kuras Mizrahi
>>
>>
>> Judy wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks to all of you who wrote in response to the Urgent Message
> regarding
>>
>> marking Bagrut exams this summer - which is imminent. Not one single voice
>> of dissention has been heard.
>>>
>>> Please keep on writing, and come prepared on Tuesday!
>>
>>
>>
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