----- Original Message ----- From: Sandra Keren - sandrakeren@xxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: literature Hi Jennifer, I totally disagree with you. True our kids need to learn English but we are first and foremost educators and as educators we need to teach our students what they need to be better human beings and that includes HOTS - Higher Order Thinking Skills. As English teachers I believe we are privileged. We can teach anything through English! I always try to include in my lessons (as I believe most English teachers do) relevant things kids should learn (Alcoholism, drugs, smoking, AIDS and much more...) I also believe HOTS should be taught in EVERY subject in school. If our students become thinking students we have done our job as educators and we can do that while teaching English. I was not in the pilot for the literature program but I am one of the lucky people who works in a school that has tried to infuse HOTS into every subject in school. I have used HOTS in my lessons and it makes the lesson much more interesting and the kids really enjoy it! So try it out before turning it down! Jennifer wrote: >I think that Chaya Ovnat has expressed perfectly why there should be reservations about the HOTS /literature or literature /HOTS program, and Esther Revivo has once again pointed out the problems it poses in practice. >I love books and literature. My family and I have just spent a good part >of Saturday going over Browning's My Last Duchess, and Donne's 'Death Be Not Proud', but I don't think we have the time or the necessity to do this sort of thing with the average pupil, because, though I hate to say this, it does come at the expense of learning basic English , Chaya's "essential prerequisites." >This is not to say that average or weak students should not be taught literature, but it must be carefully chosen, and certainly not through meta-learning, and not at the expense of learning the language. This is not Europe, where language learning is often more of an acquaintance with how foreign languages work, so that it will ease study at a later point in life of a particular language. Here, our pupils need to know the actual language, and I sometimes think that MOE has forgotten this. ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------