[etni] Re: Fw: re: school grade, and so on
- From: Linda Dayan <lindadayan7@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ask@xxxxxxxx>, <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:48:31 +0200
Sorry if I missed something. I looked on the ETNI site and didn't see any poll
on the subject of the magen grade, so I don't know how you found that a
majority of teachers are in favor of doing away with it. From what I've read
on this list, I've gotten the opposite impression, and I am totally in favor of
the Magen grade myself. When and if there's a poll, we'll be able to get a
clearer pictures, I think.
> From: ask@xxxxxxxx
> To: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [etni] Fw: re: school grade, and so on
> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:26:07 +0200
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Linda Kuras Mizrahi - lindakm09@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: school grade, and so on
>
>
> Without going into any details, I had brought up the idea of doing away with
> this ridiculous yearly grade, commonly known as a magen.. ETNI even started
> a poll because of my emails on this topic, which showed the great majority
> of English teachers in favor of doing away with this.
> What are we going to do about it??????
> Linda Kuras Mizrahi
>
>
> Jennifer wrote:
> > I would like to say something about the school grade, protecting
> hard-working weak students, helping people with learning disabilities and so
> on.
>
> With all due respect to Dr. Sela, life is hard, and when she had to take her
> driving test, nobody gave her any accomodations, and she did it in the end.
>
> My dyslexic daughter got all the accomodations she needed and deserved, but
> in real life she must still struggle with her reading problems.
>
> Life is not necessarily fair in its distribution of brains and talent.
> Students learn in order to acquire knowledge.(Or no, as the case may be).
> If we have created an education system where pupils don't come to class, let
> them stay away, and succeed or fail without any other grade than that they
> get in their final examinations. Most countries do not give marks that are
> included in the grade of a final external exam.
>
> Doing away with this grade can only benefit teachers; no more pressure from
> principals and parents. And create an exam that really tests the knowlege
> of the language. And allow teachers to teach the language; give the pupils,
> particularly those whose knowlege isn't up to the standard of most
> literature, the tools that will eventually allow them to get there.
>
> And while I am ranting, please let me rant at the universities and colleges,
> which are making money, hand over fist, from these same students with a weak
> knowlege of English. I seem them, amongst other places, where I coach
> voluntarily, at a centre for Ethiopian immigrants. It's not that they
> aren't extremely intelligent and hard working, but it is difficult to start
> building a house from the third floor. They are missing foundations. They
> don't get that from the university courses! Wealthier students just give
> their tasks to private teachers to do, and somehow, (one wonders how) get
> through the exam and go on to the next level, at I believe, 3000 sh. a pop.
>
> Our pupils need to learn English; some are more tallented than others at
> languages. Most can acquire a good working knowlege in the end, if the
> teachers are allowed to teach.
>
> By all means help learning disabled students, but we should be very careful
> who gets accomodations. We have all seen the chaos that has come about with
> the present situation.
>
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