I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. The school grade should most definitely count as a separate grade; many students work very hard for this grade. However, it should not be averaged into the "Bagrut" grade. There should be a Bagrut test grade made up of the "Bagrut" test and"Matkonet" scores and a separate school grade. The Universities should receive both grades and average them as they see fit. Iris -----Original Message----- From: etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of judy Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:38 AM To: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [etni] Re: school grades The problem is not that we have a school grade - the problem is that it is not kept separate. School grades show us a lot - how the student works, perseveres, improves, invests effort, performs in class, etc. The Bagrut shows the grade of a particular test. Averaging them together is like taking half and apple and half an orange, and gluing them together to create an "average fruit". A help to average the Bagrut can be a matkonet test. That makes some sense. The overall school grade should be taken into consideration, as a separate entity alongside the Bagrut, by college/univeristy acceptance committees. But then, of course, they will have to work a little harder. How could we expect that? What are they, teachers or something? Judy Cohen -- "Music will save the world." Pablo Casals ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------