the answer to this question is as follows: if teachers do not do what the MOE tells them to do, they are legally liable for the consequences. that is - if a kid fails the oral because he doesn't have a project, the parents can sue the teacher personally. and they might win. BUT- if the teacher was following instructions from their "irgun yatzig" (union) - that is, if the teacher was following sanctions of the irgun - even if the parents sue, the teacher will not be found at fault. (i checked this with a lawyer friend, besides being told this by nurit valencie from the irgun). we will solve this HOTS problem only if we are strong and uphold the irgun's sanctions. sara g ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Lloyd <dlloyd54@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:22 AM Subject: [etni] Fwd: Question To: Etni <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marj Bitran" <marj1959@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Question My/our union- Irgun HaMorim- has stated that we MUST NOT take any courses or teach anything for the new literature bagrut. My/our "employer"- the Ministry via local municipalities- has stated that we MUST teach the newly implemented curriculum in order to teach bagrut classes since the only way our students can get a bagrut in 4 or 5 points is with the new lit. stuff. Question: Does anyone know, LEGALLY, who we really "must" obey? I think many of us would appreciate this information. I am willing to put my job on the line but my pension? I'm not sure about that. If you have a friend, family member, whatever, in the field of law and can provide some insight, I'd be grateful! ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** ----------------------------------------------- -- sara g in israel sarag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx saragabai@xxxxxxxxx Visit us at The E Zone http://clickit3.ort.org.il/ganyavneenglish ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------