[etni] Fwd: Re: LD diagnosis

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  • Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 21:53:56 +0300

Subject: Re: LD diagnosis
To: zivmica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, etni <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Micaela, you put in a sentence what should be obvious to everyone, what I
am fighting about with everyone - that there are no "hatamot" in the real
world! so that we have to push our students to adapt (not to mention make
their parents get hora'a metakenet)
The Israeli educational system has dropped the ball on this issue too...
So frustrating...
Adi


Micaela wrote:
> As some of you know, I am responsible in Israel for one of the
> international
> English tests (TOEIC) people take for work and immigration visas to the UK
> and elsewhere in the world and for certain university and  job
> applications.
> Often I have candidates who had (or should have had) diagnostic tests while
> at school but have no updated diagnosis as adults.
> I know that one such candidate managed to get a proper diagnosis as  an
> adult in Bnei Brak - see http://www.halel-il.com/.
> And while we are on the subject - please remind your 'not so LD students
> who
> have obtained a diagnosis anyway' - that in the real world you still have
> to
> be able to read and write without a teacher's assistance, so by all means
> define your disability, but then  get real help - the kind that allows you
> to overcome the disability - not pander to it.


Jennifer wrote:
> I have an adult friend who was diagnosed dyslexic while at school, and at
> that time received all the necessary dispensations for Bagrut.
> However, she would like to be tested again, not only in order to get all
> the
> available dispensations and help when she goes to the Open University, but
> also to help her define other aspects of her life which have been affected
> by her disability.  She has done a lot of research into the various places
> offering a diagnosis.  Quite a few seem of dubious reliability, and those
> she has,  of course, ruled out.
>  From my experience with pupils needing diagnoses, I know how many
> unprofessional organizations there are.  It often seems to be a case of
> “You
> mays yer money and ye get your dispensation – exams read, no points off for
> spelling and extra time.”  Even this friend, tested at the time by Nitzan,
> was told that she could never be expected to be able to deal with
> mathematics.  This was rather odd, since mathematics was one of the few
> areas in which she excelled.
>
> Does anyone out there know of a reliable, serious organization which tests
> with the aim of steering clients towards the type of help they are in need
> of?


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