[etni] Re: Fwd: pro - log
- From: Bari Nirenberg <bnirenberg@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "etni.list@xxxxxxxxx" <etni.list@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:26:00 +0200
Regarding plagiarism, copying and private teachers, if you have your
students do the work in class, then you can avoid all of these
problems. This is not only true of the log -- every composition, book
report and project that my students do is done in class, not at home.
I have worked like this for years. Class time does not have to be used
only for frontal teaching and drilling -- writing assignments are part
of the learning process and not meant exclusively for assessment.
Bari
On Thursday, October 21, 2010, ETNI list <etni.list@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Graniewitz <graniewitz@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: pro - log
>
> I'm sorry, Sharon, IMHO the main bone of contention is the
> log.
>
> Firstly, no matter what we do we will never prevent
> plagiarism, copying and the work being done by private
> teachers etc.
>
> Secondly, the fact that it is an option means that there
> will be major discrepancies in grades between schools doing
> the log and those doing the exam. What will happen
> eventually is that teachers in the latter will be
> pressurised to switch over to the logs against their will
> and principles when it becomes evident that logs almost
> guarantee higher grades.
>
> I agree that logs do give us more freedom but the Bagrut is
> meant to be a standardised exam that can be recognised by
> institutes of higher education. If 62.5% of it will be given
> by the class teacher, then it will cease to be an objective
> measurement of the pupil's knowledge of English and I can
> see universities disregarding it. The consequence of this
> will be that pupils will stop taking English seriously at
> school and just wait to take the psychometric exam.
>
> I think that we are shooting ourselves in the foot with this
> one.
>
> Regards
> David Graniewitz
> Jerusalem
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