[etni] Fwd: re: students who don't get 4 point bagrut will never succeed!
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From: Marlene <marlenegay@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: students who don't get 4 point bagrut will never succeed!
I remember tutoring a girl in 12th grade for the 4 points bagrut. She
was proud to get a 75 - as it was her efforts that got her there. Most
of the class cheated. That's when colleges started to demand a
psychometric exam, as cheating was rampant on the bagrut. So the
colleges are looking at the psychometric exams anyway, especially with
the totally subjectively graded log exam, so how about a boycott of
the bagrut? Isn't that the meaning of the "sanctions"?
Marlene
Jennifer wrote:
> Why do we continue to believe that getting a 4 point bagrut in English
> is the be all and end all of success?
>
> I know many students who got miserable grades in bagrut, and only 3
> point English, and who eventually got to college or university and did
> very well for themselves. Quite apart from those who didn't bother
> to study, but are doing much much better financially than we are, and
> whose children have all the advantages that we can't afford to give
> ours.
>
> Nathan, you are quite right that Ethiopian immigrants frequently don't
> have the background for the unseens. Nor do many Israeli born
> students. But surely that is part of what education is about;
> students can be taught. It just has to be done earlier, and don't
> hurry over the basics. A good foundation will mean that students can
> progress faster later on.
>
> Years ago, in a development town I taught in, I was given a 10th grade
> class of non- readers - well, actually, they knew most of the
> alphabet!. We started with the basics, and at first progressed very
> slowly, but they became so enthusiastic about finally understanding
> what they were learning that they made tremendous efforts and even
> insisted that they do their exams according to the honour system which
> was used in my school in England. This involved much brain washing
> about how 40% which you have obtained all by yourself, is something to
> be really proud of. By the end of the year they were able to tackle
> an unseen from the 3 point bagrut, which was harder then. True, I
> gave them 2 hours to do it, but they sat their in silence, struggling
> with their dictionaries (Passport), and they all did very well.
>
> I did one other thing with that class, and it is something I continue
> to do with all my students - every week they have to read an article
> from the Friday newspaper in Hebrew, and report on it in Hebrew, in
> writing. The article has to be serious, about things that influence
> the world we live in. Sometimes i give them a subject to read up on
> or find something about in the paper;global warming, for example.
>
> True, this class had only 16 students, but then many weak classes are
> relatively small.
>
> There is life after school, and the 4 point bagrut isn't everything.
> Being really able to read and understand an article at a 3 point level
> is more important than teaching 'tricks' to get he answer right.
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