[etni] Fwd: re: which work to complain about

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  • Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 21:56:15 +0200

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From:  <marj1959@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: which work to complain about

Yes but... I already do not give oral or mutam exams where not
"relevant" but in our school cd prep takes no time (secretaries do the
copies and the teacher in charge of making the test makes one cd) and
most kids that don't really benefit don't use it ( sometimes those who
would benefit don't use it either)   As for Israel being at the top
for hatamot- maybe if there were fewer students they would be able to
learn and focus better.  A much better use of money than hatamot
committees would be smaller classes!  Anyway- I believe projects are a
helpful learning tool but should be used by teachers who do them
willingly and properly.  By the way- there is nothing on the forms I
have seen that relate to a student's effort or attendance!  Hope we
all wage war here on whatever is near and dear to us. Enough is
enough!!!

Marj


Sharon wrote:
> Interestingly, the new demand to fill out forms for students applying
> for hakraat sheilon has generated the most heat although this
> particular demand will save us time in the long run.
>
> Currently, the number of students with hakraat sheilon is ridiculous,
> and as we prepare CDs for all these students for all exams, the demand
> on our time is tremendous. Once students have to get approval from an
> outside committee, the number of students getting this accomodation
> will drop dramatically, saving us a lot of work (and hopefully
> students who shouldn't really  be getting this accomodation will not
> receive it.
>
> I have filled out such forms and I am happy that the committee relates
> to my input and that things such as student's attendence, preparation
> and effort have some impact. (why should a student who never comes or
> who never does anything be given accomodations?) BTW, schools are
> supposed to do such paper work even for level 1 and 2 accomodations,
> but no one bothers with it.
>
> This is not to say that I don't agree that our workload has become
> impossible - but I think we need to fight to change other areas.
> First, projects should be dropped!! Tons of work (and it is not
> achieving its goal anyway...I don't have time to go into details.)
> Drop book reports for 4 pointers... they don't read anyway, drop
> another book report from 5 pointers (at least). Adding the log has
> added a lot of assessment work to our workload, so the workload of
> assessment in other areas needs to be lessened.
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