Thank you Rachelle for pointing out some of the pitfalls involved in using the MP options. This just strengthens my conviction that we should be using the computers we have and not be trying to use every new gadget that comes out - MP, CD, DVD, Bluetooth. Keeping on changing the technology is costly in money as well as in time to learn how to do it - not to speak of the fact that by the time we convince the testing department to use it, it is already obsolete. Having said that, I suggest that we keep a collection of different technologies and instructions for using them on the ETNI website, so that a teacher has various options and can choose the one(s) that are most applicable to their situation. I'll try to prepare a file on how to download and use the text reader option that I mentioned and send it to ETNI. I suggest and hope others will take some time and write similar instructions for some of the other options mentioned here or that have not appeared here. It seems to me that convincing the testing deptartment to approve of the various options can best be done by Judy. Those of us who have experience with teaching LD kids know that not only do they have problems with remembering and organizing themselves, but so do their parents (from whom they probably inherited the LD in the first place). They forget to bring notes, to show up for PTA meetings, etc. But I don't think we need to take the responsibility onto our shoulders. These kids have to learn to live in a structured society, and they have to take some responsibility (or be taught it) upon themselves. When they go out into the wide world, they'll have to remember to take water with them when they go on a trip to the desert, to set their alarm clocks to get up in the morning for work, to iron their shirts before they need them, etc.. Someone else mentioned the fact that kids will always find ways to have extra files on their MP players. Well, I've seen whole tests, full files of notes, not to speak of rapid text messaging etc. on mobile phones and how many of you collect kids' mobile phones (all of them, not just one per pupil) before a test? What about the extra files that they write under their watchbands, on their shirt cuffs, etc. Why is it that we think they can only cheat with the latest technology? Why do we think we have to solve this problem all by ourselves? It's a cultural thing and has to be dealt with on many levels. This shouldn't be an excuse for not using a particular technology. Candella mentioned a bluetooth technology option. Well, if regular computers or MP3 players aren't available to everyone, Bluetooth is so far out of most pupils' league as to put it into the future files - though I'd love to see clear instructions and tech specifications up on ETNI. Teachers who are technophobic cannot simply avoid the issue. They need to do their part, even if they need help doing it. Either get yourself a technology guru (this can be one of your pupils), or utilize the skills of the computer person in your school. Have them download the text reader programs, burn the CD's, or better yet, sit down with you and teach you how to do it until you can manage on your own. After all, you learned how to turn on the computer, type on a wordprocessor, save and print materials, use your school's computerized grading system so you can't be completely helpless or hopeless. Renee ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------