Greetings, all! I would like to thank Maxine for her question. I was wondering if people really knew where I was coming from and whether I should take more ETNI space to explain. I started teaching EFL in Israel back in the days when there was a separate afternoon Bagrut session to answer essay questions on English Literature. (I suggest reading some of those essays to see how far we have subsequently dumbed-down the level of English teaching/learning.) Since that time, regardless of the changes of the form of the English Bagrut, I have continued to love teaching Literature, particularly poetry. I have seen classes voluntarily learn and recite Jabberwocky, just because it was a cool thing to do. I have seen students brought to tears over the fate of Bess and her Highwayman lover. With the advent of the personal computer, I merged poetry with technology in ways not possible in previous classes. I have had kids voluntarily search YouTube for various poems and then stand around the computer discussing the literary and technical quality of the multi-media presentations. In addition, I have ended up, with great notoriety, on the pages of the national press when I used certain HOTS procedures with Richard Corey. (Many thanks to Avi Tzur when he wrote to my principal that I had done nothing wrong.) I have had more than one former student email me to say that they saw me in Robert Williams’s character in “The Dead Poets’ Society.” I have taught sections of Romeo & Juliet, comparing video clips of Zeffirelli, DiCaprio, and West Side Story. A number of times, my classes have composed their own version of the Romeo & Juliet plot, in local settings (a la West Side Story). Once, a class presented its masterpiece to the entire 10th grade. Another class demanded to go out to see then-new DiCaprio version at a local theater together. When I chaperoned three students in London, they were willing to see only Romeo & Juliet when we went down to Leicester Square. Unlike some of the teachers on ETNI, I actually like many of the older pieces. (That’s not to say I wouldn’t teach newer pieces as well.) In particular, I love teaching AMS. Although it is old hat for us, it is a new and moving experience for the kids. Like an actor in a long running Broadway hit, it is a professional challenge to offer the play to fresh eyes and ears each time we teach it. As for using HOTS with AMS, I finish working on it with an essay exam: Compare and Contrast AMS with Samuel II Chapter 11-12. I give out Hebrew and Russian copies of the original David and Bat Sheva story and then tell the kids to think first, then write. The results have been stunning. In short, I’m all for teaching English (and a bit of English-language culture) through Literature. My school has always taught Literature, even when it was not actually tested on the Bagrut. The same is true for projects. We have been doing various types of projects for ever. In addition, we have been using HOTS, whether it be in Literature, projects, creative writing, intensive and extensive reading, or unseens. This is just an obviously good way to teach English in an interesting, meaningful, and efficient way. This is the way we do it in our school and there are a lot of teachers who do it better than I do, but are inhibited about spilling their guts on ETNI. My general problem comes when the MOE, in an attempt to encourage some other schools not to be Bagrut-factories, shackles us with very specific formats for Literature and projects. I dread having to create a chart in which certain poems will be taught via certain HOTS, etc. etc. This chart must be created and maintained to make sure that all the kids, regardless of changing classes, cover all the required HOTS. This will obviously be true for the exam mode, but it will most probably be true for the log mode as well. This is parallel to my consternation over being told that projects must take the form of academic mini-research papers. These mandated formats have strangled my creativity as a teacher and I have heard the same from many others. My specific problem is the testing of meta-cognitive awareness in an examination that is supposed to be testing the students’ competencies in ENGLISH. There’s nothing wrong with using HOTS while teaching/learning, but it is absolutely insane to put meta-cognitive questions in the exam. The time we will need to get the kids ready to answer meta-cognitive questions eats away at the precious time we have to teach Literature for pleasure (while teaching/learning English), or all the other things we want to do, or have to do in class. And yes, I also have a problem with being told to work a lot more for no compensation. I was happy to hear that the pilot teachers are getting some extra pay for the log, but I would really like to hear the MOE’s policies about the future. After all, by “convincing” us to do the log, the MOE is saving a mountain of money when D and F are not given (or given minimally). How about letting the teachers who generate those savings get a bit for their extra work? Sorry for the long post, but Maxine’s question opened the floodgate. Jimmy Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:36:44 +0200 From: maxinetz <maxinetz@xxxxxxx> Subject: [etni] Re: About "wait and see" Dear Jimmy, I would like to know just one thing: are you in favor of including Literature on the English Bagrut? If so, how would YOU do it? Regards, Maxine Tsvaigrach ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------