[etni] Re: Sorry for the oversight
- From: maxinetz <maxinetz@xxxxxxx>
- To: drjamesbacker@xxxxxxxxx, etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:50:17 +0200
Hi Jimmy. Thanks for answering my question. First of all, I was happy
to see that you think Literature should be brought back to the Bagrut in
some way. So we agree! Second of all, interestingly enough, you advocate
some kind of return to the method that was used over 30 years ago, testing
Literature via essay questions, with plenty of choice. However, let me
remind you that even then there was not unlimited choice!! I'm sure you
realize that on a national standardized exam there can't be unlimited
choice, because of the issues of test reliability and marker familiarity
with the pieces tested. The exam option as it is foreseen will allow
wide, though limited choice (from among 10 stories and 10 poems, the list
of which will be gleaned from teachers' recommendations) for HALF of the
Literature Program. And leaving aside your reservations about the Log
option, here you are allowed unlimited choice, subject to your inspector's
approval. So far I don't see that much disagreement between us....
As I understand you, your major concern, though, is with the HOTS. Have
you been reading the postings of teachers such as Shelley Ganiel and Aviva
Shapiro who participated in the Pilot Program last year? From their
experience the infusion of HOTS did not impair their creativity or freedom
to teach the literature as they wanted to, and in fact enhanced it. This
was the feedback that I also got as a counselor for the pilot, although I
admit at the beginning teachers were complaining that they were getting
bogged down with the HOTS, until they learned how to integrate them into
their lessons naturally. You shouldn't brush off the experience of those
who actually tried out the program and were pleased with it . As to
whether or not there should be explicit questions relating to metacognitive
skills on the Bagrut EXAM, yes, there is disagreement about this, that's
true. In any case, even as it stands now, if you look at the
specifications for the upcoming Module F Literature Exam next week, you'll
see that the questions on the HOTS are far from being the focus.
My only plea is for everyone to see the bottom line here: literature is
being brought back into the Bagrut, which I would think we'd all be
applauding instead of griping about. We can discuss the details, yes, and
changes are being made all the time as a result of feedback from the field.
In any case,
if you look objectively you'll see that the way you envision it being tested
is not all that different from the vision of the program under way.
Regards,
Maxine Tsvaigrach
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Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:39 PM
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Subject: [etni] Sorry for the oversight
Greetings, all - again,
I just realized that I got so wrapped up in the issues of teaching
Literature, that I didn't fully answer Maxine's question about testing it. I
apologize for that.
Yes, it would appear that many schools will only teach Literature if it
appears on the Exam, so it should appear somewhere on the Bagrut
exam. Unfortunate, but true.
Without claiming to be an expert on constructing exams, here are a few
suggestions:
1. Do not test meta-cognition, test English and English Literature.
2. Ask general questions that could be relevant about most pieces of
Literature. Have separate questions about plays, novels, short stories, and
poetry. These general, yet genre-specific, questions will give the teachers
and the kids more flexibility in the Literature they experience in class.
Preparing for this type questions will train kids to appreciate, and even
enjoy, literature in the future. (Asking about which HOTS they used will
have very little value in their future.)
3. Let the kids choose one or two questions out of a larger number of
questions.
4. I guess this means going back to the Literature essay format, or some
type of short-essay format. I don't think that this would be an unreasonable
challenge for real 5-pointers. I'm not so sure about 4-pointers - that takes
more thought.
Of course, having more essays would cost the MOE more money, but sometimes
the right way of doing things cost more.
I'm sure that there are lots of other reasonable ways of examining ENGLISH
and ENGLISH LITERATURE, without having to ask meta-cognitive questions.
Jimmy
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