Hi Eleanor, A few inaccuracies in your points: 1. Ask many of the teachers who participated in the pilot and actually tried the program out with their students - learning the HOTS does NOT kill literature or prevent anyone from enjoying a good story. 2. If you want to choose every single piece that you teach, you can opt for the log. 3. The criteria for marking the log are set before you start teaching, and can be seen by parents and kids and anyone else who might possibly contest the grade at the end. 4. As it stands, markers of the log will be paid the bagrut markers' salary at a rate of 5 logs per hour. (Markers of regular exams are paid at a rate of 6 exams per hour. There is an effort being made to change the log rate to 4.5 an hour. If you mark the tasks as you go along, there are only 2 end-of-the game tasks to mark before tallying up the log grade. It is not like the project, where you only see the product at the end of the process. 5. (Personal opinion) - the difference in the amount of work between this and pre-lit module teaching depends on the teacher. If you are not used to giving your kids various writing tasks frequently, it will seem like a lot of extra work, but if you are, I don't think the change in the amount of work is very significant - spread over 2 or 3 years. I say this from having tried it both ways. Also, if the MABAR kids are learning thinking skills in their L1, it will be much easier to go through this program, reinforcing what they have learned. That is a big plus! Finally, you don't have to buy a book just because it is published. You can see whether it serves your needs or not. New books are published every year, regardless of changes (or lack of changes) in the curriculum. We choose to use them, or not. All the best, Mitzi --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Ask_Etni <ask@xxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Ask_Etni <ask@xxxxxxxx> Subject: [etni] fw: Literature program To: "ETNI" <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 9:40 PM From: ELEANOR ZWEBNER - eleanorz541@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Literature program I wish to add my 2 cents to the discussion on the Literature module As I am on sabbatical and there was a conflict with other programs I had chosen earlier, after 3 sessions of our Jerusalem "hishtalmut", I decided to postpone the hishtalmut for this year. Again, I am on sabbatical and did not feel it imperative to get involved already. However, there are several issues which I personally feel are NOT being addressed. 1) The 4 point pupils, especially Mabar pupils who are categorized as having special learning needs: They have in L1 -- their mother-tongue -- additional hours of LANGUAGE (their own) and additional hours of literature -- approximately 6 hours weekly of the two (in the USA, we called it Language Arts..). We are teaching a foreign language and are expected to deal with higher order thinking skills in 4 hours a week. In L1, they are learning BASIC thinking and study skills. 2) As noted, those of us who have been teaching literature find this program restrictive regarding the lterature assigned; the multiple HOTS requirements for each and every piece studied is going to KILL litertaure for many pupils who have enjoyed a good story and have managed to learn some words along the way. 3) The additional labor should not be sneered at -- both the project and this new program are very labor intensive -- and the labor is ours: the teachers. I believe each school (actually I think each teacher!) should have the option of choosing one or the other but not both, i.e. either the project or the Literature module. Even if the Irgun gets the ministry to pay more, it is unlikely that it will really compensate for the time invested and it will simply mean we can not complain. An example is the money we are paid for going on class trips with pupils. Years ago, we were not paid; now we get a few shekelim (I think 50 for the night - but I don't remember exactly how little) It does NOT compensate for the babysitting, lack of sleep and denigration of our role as teachers when at 2 am we are trying to get lively 15 year olds to sleep and praying they don't have vodka in their water bottles. And we go to work the next day; the pupils get (or take) the day off. AND, the Ministry --no matter how much they pay -- will be SAVING money at OUR expense. The grade will be internal. That means that 1/3 of the written exams will not have 2 external markers as well as all the proctors during the test itself, and no one will do a retest or moed bet! We certainly will not be paid according to the pay scale for Bagrut examiners. And last, the grade will now be determined by the teacher herself sorry, --it is usually a female..). Besides being unethical and destroying the notion of a standardized nationwide test, I find this totally unacceptable. Two years ago, I was threatened in the teachers' room by 2 parents who were dissatisfied with their son's "Tziyun Shnati -- internal final grade -- on the F module. They vowed they would get me, that I hadn't heard the end of it and they would hound me... IN THE TEACHERS' ROOM with 10 others present . Now this was for 50% of 33% of 80%. What will happen when it is 100% of the 33%? How many of us are familiar with stories of schools where even principals have been known to boost grades? Now, the pressure will be even greater for such conduct. I believe the ones who will truly benefit fromt his program are the publishers. Those of us who taught literature because we enjoyed it, passed this along to our pupils; those who taught literature because they it was required and they followed the rules, got the job done; those who didn't teach literature for whatever reasons, lost out and it is doubtful that forcing them to teach it this way is going to make them better teachers or their pupils more proficient in English . Eleanor ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------