[etni] Re: fw: Literature program

  • From: Mitzi Geffen <mitzi1002001@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ETNI <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ask@xxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:35:39 -0800 (PST)

Hi Eleanor,
        A few inaccuracies in your points:
1. Ask many of the teachers who participated in the pilot and actually tried 
the program out with their students - learning the HOTS does NOT kill 
literature or prevent anyone from enjoying a good story.
 
2. If you want to choose every single piece that you teach, you can opt for the 
log.
 
3. The criteria for marking the log are set before you start teaching, and can 
be seen by parents and kids and anyone else who might possibly contest the 
grade at the end.
 
4. As it stands, markers of the log will be paid the bagrut markers' salary at 
a rate of 5 logs per hour. (Markers of regular exams are paid at a rate of 6 
exams per hour. There is an effort being made to change the log rate to 4.5 an 
hour.  If you mark the tasks as you go along, there are only 2 end-of-the game 
tasks to mark before tallying up the log grade. It is not like the project, 
where you only see the product at the end of the process.
 
5. (Personal opinion) - the difference in the amount of work between this and 
pre-lit module teaching depends on the teacher. If you are not used to giving 
your kids various writing tasks frequently, it will seem like a lot of extra 
work, but if you are, I don't think the change in the amount of work is very 
significant - spread over 2 or 3 years. I say this from  having tried it both 
ways.  Also, if the MABAR kids are learning thinking skills in their L1, it 
will be much easier to go through this program, reinforcing what they have 
learned. That is a big plus!
 
Finally, you don't have to buy a book just because it is published. You can see 
whether it serves your needs or not. New books are published every year, 
regardless of changes (or lack of changes) in the curriculum. We choose to use 
them, or not. 
 
All the best,
         Mitzi
 

--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Ask_Etni <ask@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Ask_Etni <ask@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [etni] fw: Literature program
To: "ETNI" <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 9:40 PM

From: ELEANOR ZWEBNER - eleanorz541@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Literature program

I wish to add my 2 cents to the discussion on the Literature module

As I am on sabbatical and there was a conflict with other programs I had 
chosen earlier, after 3 sessions of our Jerusalem "hishtalmut", I
decided to 
postpone the hishtalmut for this year.  Again, I am on sabbatical and did 
not feel it imperative to get involved already.  However, there are several 
issues which I personally feel are NOT being addressed.

1)  The 4 point pupils, especially Mabar pupils who are categorized as 
having special learning needs:
They have in L1 -- their mother-tongue -- additional hours of LANGUAGE 
(their own) and additional hours of literature -- approximately 6 hours 
weekly of the two (in the USA, we called it Language Arts..). We are 
teaching a foreign language and are expected to deal with higher order 
thinking skills in 4 hours a week. In L1, they are learning BASIC thinking 
and study skills.

2)  As noted, those of us who have been teaching literature find this 
program restrictive regarding  the lterature assigned;  the multiple  HOTS 
requirements for each and every piece studied is going to KILL litertaure 
for many pupils who have  enjoyed a good story  and have  managed to learn 
some words along the way.

3)  The additional labor should not be sneered at -- both the project and 
this new program are very labor intensive -- and the labor is ours:  the 
teachers.  I believe each school (actually I think each teacher!) should 
have the option of choosing one or the other but not both, i.e. either the 
project or the Literature module.   Even if the Irgun gets the ministry to 
pay more, it is unlikely that it will really compensate for the time 
invested  and it will simply mean we can not complain.
An example is the money we are paid for going on class trips with pupils. 
Years ago, we were not paid; now we get a few shekelim (I think 50 for the 
night - but I don't remember exactly how little)  It does NOT compensate
for 
the babysitting, lack of sleep and denigration of our role as teachers when 
at 2 am we are trying to get lively 15 year olds to sleep and praying they 
don't have vodka in their water bottles.  And we go to work the next day; 
the pupils get (or take) the day off.

AND, the Ministry --no matter how much they pay -- will be SAVING money at 
OUR expense.  The grade will be internal. That means that 1/3 of the written 
exams will not have 2 external markers  as well as all the proctors during 
the test  itself, and no one will do a retest or moed bet!   We certainly 
will not be paid according to the pay scale for Bagrut examiners.

And last, the grade will now be determined by the teacher herself 
sorry,  --it is usually a female..).  Besides being unethical and destroying 
the  notion of a standardized nationwide test, I find this totally 
unacceptable.   Two years ago, I was threatened in the teachers' room by 2 
parents who were dissatisfied with their son's  "Tziyun Shnati --
internal 
final grade --    on the F module.  They vowed they would get me, that I 
hadn't heard the end of it and they would hound me...   IN THE
TEACHERS' 
ROOM with 10 others present .  Now this was for 50% of 33% of 80%.  What 
will happen when it is 100% of the 33%?

How many of us are familiar with stories of schools where even principals 
have been known to boost grades?  Now, the pressure will be even greater for 
such conduct.

 I believe the ones who will truly benefit  fromt his program are the 
publishers.  Those of us who taught literature because we enjoyed it, passed 
this along to our pupils;  those who taught literature because they it was 
required and they followed the rules,  got the job done;  those who didn't 
teach literature for whatever reasons, lost out and it is doubtful that 
forcing them to teach it this way is going to make them better teachers or 
their pupils more proficient in English .

Eleanor



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