Just to take issue with Adele again for the bleeding fun of it, I need to ask: 1. Why don't we start by eliminating the things that frustrate the teaching of literature and the development of Higher Order Thinking Skills? 2. If what we are teaching are life-skills and skills relevant to other subjects, how come we are not receiving HOTS training on a school-wide basis, with each faculty receiving additional training specific to its needs? As I have written before, variations on HOTS have been around for a long time. I would guess that most of us - at least on this list - do not dispute that emphasis on these skills can have great value. Most of us would also like the time to do more literature and recognize its value. You speak of "what allowed the Ministry to put literature back on the map . . . " If we agree that literature is a great and essential part of English teaching, shouldn't we look at why it fell off the map and what version of it is coming back? We might find that a lot of the structure that remains is the exact structure that interferes with our infusion of the great values we want to impart. Most of the literature I used last year does not meet the current guidelines. I could envision using some other work of art as an entry point for some quite sophisticated conversations about art and literature (use of HOTS in other words). In this case, I am thinking of the Dead Kennedys "Too Drunk to F**k." But this is no longer strictly an English lesson. This brings in protest songs and movements, questions of censorship and free speech, questions of what has artistic value, questions of basic decency, and should cause some curiosity as to what today's disaffected youth has in common with my disaffected youth. From teaching and administrative standpoints, this raises questions of joint scheduling and programming with the history/civics/literature departments. How can we expect anything from them when the infusion hasn't reached there yet? These kinds of issues aren't even addressed. Instead what we will see next year is more ridiculous conversations about how to evaluate and give grades under the new system and implement the various requirements instead of conversations about how to engage our students to really love this wonderful world of material. You also speak of incidental benefits regarding organization and teaching practices. Wouldn't it make more sense to have a competent inspector come into a class room, work with a teacher to determine what is missing and then provide support from there? I do not mean anything personal here Adele. I just think that our system is based on the notion that our kids lack inspiration and need to be coerced and controlled. We don't need all this structure to inspire our students to love literature and engage seriously and intensively with their world. What we need to do is give up the coercive structure, have faith in our kids, and provide them a constructive space in which they can grow and advance. I know the new program is trying in some way to do this, but it is built on such a rotten foundation (lack of faith in the individual teacher, the Bagrut, grades, insufficient time, teachers and training, etc.) and situated in such a lousy environment (Israel's educational system), that much of this effort will be for naught. The context is decisive. If we don't do something about it, very little will change. With another hour and a half wasted, I am . . . Yours truly, David R. Herz drherz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.educatingisrael.com Bet Rimon 052-579-1859 Dear Talila, No ignorance involved here - this is an intelligent question coming from someone who has yet to do the course. It is not so much "infusing" as "integrating" (hence the title of the course is "Integrating Higher Order Skills in Literature Teaching"). The aim is to do both. One aim is to encourage teachers to teach literature. Another aim is to empower our students with tools that will help them analyze not only literature, but other things they learn, in other subjects as well as in different realms of their lives. The integrating of the HOTS into the teaching of literature has many benefits other than that: it is what allowed the Ministry to put literature back on the map BIG time, it is an effective and efficient way to organize our units of work and instill in us sound teaching practices that are all too often overlooked or forgotten when we do our planning (methodological issues such as sufficient emphasis on lower order thinking skills, explicit instruction, metacognition, reflection, etc.) I hope you find the opportunity to go to a session that is given that explains this more thoroughly than I have the time to here... I have no doubt that there will be informative sessions at ETAI. I can tell you that for REED teachers, our study day is focusing specifically on this topic, and I trust inspectors in other regions will be running introductory, explanatory sessions, as well (if they are NOT, then call or write them and request this to be done!) I hope that clarifies it to some extent, at least. Best of luck Adele ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------