Good morning Sandra and all the good people who read the ETNI list, Please bear with me for addressing the HOTS issue again, but I can't really see what all the controversy is about as I don't think there's a single teacher (except among those who haven't been teaching literature, perhaps) who will argue against trying to motivate our students to think! That's precisely why most of us enjoy involving our classes in as much good literature as possible, and even those students who aren't naturally lovers of literature find something to say or think about when we apply a story's theme to our daily lives. However, many of us who have taken the HOTS course are concerned about putting a damper on the enthusiasm we work hard to create if we must start 'infusing / integrating' (or whatever) the terminology that our students will be required to use to name their thought processes. For the majority of them, it's enough challenge to get through a piece of literature in L2 (even with a dedicated teacher's assistance) and answer the thought-provoking questions in English. Why must we burden them to attach a name to their thought process? Yes, I know what the experts think, but I'd like to see one of them apply this ideology in a typical Israeli classroom! Ironically, what we'd actually be doing with this part of the program is to force our students to think INSIDE the box! Moreover, merely naming a thinking skill and/or imagining how they can apply it outside of literature doesn't make it an integral part of themselves. In order for them to truly use the concept of 'different perspectives', for example, they've got to have considerable emotional (as well as intellectual) maturity, and that's a tall order! (How many teachers can apply this principle when their principal gives an order they don't like?) That's not to say that we shouldn't teach the concepts, of course, but -- no matter what the theory says -- our experience suggests that this part of the HOTS program (i.e., naming the thinking process) will be counterproductive and only serve to further alienate peripheral students from both the literature and the language, not to mention the willingness to think. To summarize, it's just about universally agreed that literature should take its rightful place in our ESL (and Bagrut) curriculum. Many of us are just expressing our concern about the high-sounding but rather impractical methodology we're being forced to accept, and I think it's unfair to label teachers as unprofessional or unwilling to accept change just because we haven't had our legimate concerns addressed. My experience has rather been that (discounting those who enjoy complaining!) it's the hardest-working teachers who raise the best questions about a theory that's touted as being the answer to our hopes and prayers. Why not let those who are decidedly in favor of the program [continue to] implement it on an experimental basis and then report back to the designers about how to perfect it? Of course, it's doubtful that it will ever be honed to everyone's satisfaction, but it least this way we can get closer to achieving its aim. There was a reasonable suggestion previously made on this list to delay the implementation of HOTS until the creases in the program (more than mentioned here) have been somewhat ironed out so that every teacher can understand where she/he's supposed to be headed. Now THAT's what I'd call sound thinking -- from any perspective! Have a well-deserved summer break, but consider including the roundtable discussion on HOTS at ETAi's conference in your itinerary (before it starts getting HOTter)! All the best, Batya ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------