In reply to Louise below, Have you ever wondered why the questions being asked on this forum are not being answered by anyone in the Ministry's English Dept? We can be sure they are reading these mails. So not having any official answer, I'll give my take on this according to what I've discussed with my Vaad rep at school: Pedagogical meetings come at the expense of Shaot She'hia. That means, if you teach 5 hours on a particular day and you need to spend 10 hours at school meetings (yes, I know the numbers are much higher, but let's take that as an example). Then you charge the shaot she'hia for 10 hours and do not do any of the other activities that you usually do during those shaot she'hia. (You can go home) If you do not have 10 hours of shaot she'hia during that week, you simply carry them over to the next week. If you've spent all of your shaot she'hia, then you might be able to charge your shaot partaniot. I'll have to check that. You simply report the meetings as part of the shaot partaniot (in any case you have to report what you've done in each sha'ah partanit). Don't forget, though that if the meetings start at 1:00 and you have scheduled classes from 1-3 (for examples), then those classes were cancelled and you can't charge for them. If the above information is incorrect, then I'll be happy to be corrected by anyone who has official answers. Next point. How many of you have been given the facilities we were promised in order to carry out our obligations - work stations where we can prepare lessons, meet with students, etc? No one in our school has. Weren't we promised that we would not have to stay the extra hours unless we were provided with the physical means to do so? Renee Wahl From: Louise -Lipert Maery <lu_mmm@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [etni] UGH! Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 14:12:37 -0500 Next week our school is holding its pedagogical meetings. The hours start between 1:00 - 2:00 pm and end between 8:00-8:30pm. For most of us that means a 12 hour day for at least a period of 3 days! Isn't that against the Oz rules? Weren't school days supposed to end by 4:00 - including meetings? ************************************** ** Join ETNI on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/31737970668/ ** ETNI Blog and Poll http://ask-etni.blogspot.co.il/ ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org ** post to ETNI List - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** help - ask@xxxxxxxx ***************************************