[etni] Re: meetings
- From: Mitzi Geffen <mitzi100@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Renee Whal <renew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:09:07 +0300
First of all, if anyone wants an official answer to a question, s/he should
write to an official person, respectfully, and not expect all of the
officials to be answering every ( or any) posts on a grass-roots (
wonderful!) public forum. A bit of respect for the position, in my opinion,
is not too much to ask.
Second, as for the meetings , Renee is right about the "shaot Shehiya".
Hours are tabulated on a monthly basis, so you can spread the extra hours
over the next week or so, and come in late or go home early if your shehiya
hours are scheduled at the beginning or the end of a day.
Finally, our school joined Oz L'tmura right from the first chance, and very
nice facilities were built for teachers to work in - sort of work carols
with a comfortable desk chair , a desk and a computer with an internet
connection, plus a few small rooms for working with more than one student
or meeting with a few teachers. I agree that without that, the shehiya
hours would be pretty useless, but I have to say that having them is really
terrific. Now if they would throw lunch into the bargain, like a normal
workplace, we could really feel like somebody cares about our well-being!
As usual, the reform was started before the structure was ready, but when
everything gets sorted out, I think it will be fine.
Mitzi
Mitzi
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:24 AM, renee wahl <renew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In reply to Louise below,
> Have you ever wondered why the questions being asked on this forum are not
> being answered by anyone in the Ministry's English Dept? We can be sure
> they are reading these mails.
>
> So not having any official answer, I'll give my take on this according to
> what I've discussed with my Vaad rep at school:
>
> Pedagogical meetings come at the expense of Shaot She'hia. That means, if
> you teach 5 hours on a particular day and you need to spend 10 hours at
> school meetings (yes, I know the numbers are much higher, but let's take
> that as an example). Then you charge the shaot she'hia for 10 hours and do
> not do any of the other activities that you usually do during those shaot
> she'hia. (You can go home) If you do not have 10 hours of shaot she'hia
> during that week, you simply carry them over to the next week. If you've
> spent all of your shaot she'hia, then you might be able to charge your
> shaot
> partaniot. I'll have to check that. You simply report the meetings as
> part
> of the shaot partaniot (in any case you have to report what you've done in
> each sha'ah partanit). Don't forget, though that if the meetings start at
> 1:00 and you have scheduled classes from 1-3 (for examples), then those
> classes were cancelled and you can't charge for them.
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> If the above information is incorrect, then I'll be happy to be corrected
> by
> anyone who has official answers.
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> Next point. How many of you have been given the facilities we were
> promised
> in order to carry out our obligations - work stations where we can prepare
> lessons, meet with students, etc? No one in our school has. Weren't we
> promised that we would not have to stay the extra hours unless we were
> provided with the physical means to do so?
>
> Renee Wahl
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> From: Louise -Lipert Maery <lu_mmm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: [etni] UGH!
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> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 14:12:37 -0500
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> Next week our school is holding its pedagogical meetings. The hours start
> between 1:00 - 2:00 pm and end between 8:00-8:30pm. For most of us that
> means a 12 hour day for at least a period of 3 days! Isn't that against the
> Oz rules? Weren't school days supposed to end by 4:00 - including meetings?
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