Linda is right. Are we abandoning our students? Or is there something constructive to be done beyond sharing our frustration on Etni? On 7 July 2011 09:15, LindaKM <lindakm09@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The matriculation exams have never been valid or reliable! How many times > have we seen students getting 20+ points lower than their usual grades in > the summer and then, around 6 weeks later, in Moed Bet, getting very high > grades??? Perhaps, as I wrote to Sara, these students had studied day and > night and improved significantly??? (ha ha ha).... What does that say about > the exams? Another pet peeve, of which I have written on ETNI, is the > ridiculous "magen" grade, but I won't get into that now..... > The big question is, what is going to be done about it? > Linda Kuras Mizrahi > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Ilana Rosansky <ilanar49@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Sounds like there is a serious validity AND reliability issue with this > > module. It should be carefully examined before kids' fates are determined > > by > > an unreliable exam. > > Dr. Ilana Rosansky > > > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 8:55 PM, sara g <saragabai@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > OK - G should be challenging. so the grades should be lower than F. > > > but if we give school grades based on G level tests - there shouldn't > > > be that big a gap between the school and test grade. > > > the problem is - that there is no such thing as a "G level test" > > > because there is such a difference between the different moadim. > > > > > > sara g > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Jacquie Mohar <caddy_1998@xxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > HiHaving just checked many module G bagruts I was not surprised by > our > > > school's VERY low grades. Each class averaged 20% difference between > > their > > > magen and their test grade. > > > > While I feel that the G test should be 'challenging' - let's be > honest, > > > the top students in the country do that test - I noticed the module E > > grades > > > were also very low. That is a shame for the 4 pointers who had a really > > > tricky test this summer. > > > > Hopefully they will all see their grades in time to get to moed bet > on > > > Monday. > > > > Jacquie > > > > Jacquie Mohar - Once a Blue, always a Blue > > > > Everton loyal supporter > > > > > > > > 050 7788217 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > sara g in israel > > > sarag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > saragabai@xxxxxxxxx > > > Visit us at The E Zone > > > http://clickit3.ort.org.il/ganyavneenglish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- For people who like peace and quiet - a phoneless cord