Dear coleagues, In answer to Adele and Jennifer. This time I am going to represent the Ministry. I have been a counselor for about 15 years. I have visited many, many schools in all the sectors and have worked with teachers teaching pupils at all levels from 7th grade to 12th grade. It goes without saying that I have also visited many classes. Over the years, my battle has been to get the teachers to use a coursebooks and not the Unseen Bagrut practice books (which are cheap and seem practical). These practice books do NOT prepare the pupils for bagrut because there is NO repetition of vocabulary (not to mention how boring they are...). The grammar books, which are out of context, hardly do their job either because most pupils do not know how to transfer what they learn there to the "real thing" which is writing a composition. On the other hand, the publishers have come up with wonderful coursebooks written for every possible age level and at every possible level of English suitable for most pupils. These are the books approved by the Ministry for use in the classroom. There is NO reason to even mention the word bagrut in Junior High School. That is where the pupils should be learning English (not practicing unseens...). If they know English, it will be no problem for them to learn the technique of the exam at a later stage. I believe that I can safely say that I represent most of the counselors sent out there from the Ministry. (Can't blame the Ministry for everything every time...) Best wishes, Miriam Greif -------------------------------------------------- From: "Adele P. Raemer " <raemer@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:02 PM To: <etni.list@xxxxxxxxx>; "'Etni'" <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [etni] Re: Fwd: the modular Bagrut exam > Dear Jennifer, > > You wrote: " Yesterday I was shocked to discover that one of the set books > of a 9th grade student in Givataim is an Unseens for module 'c'. > These unseens are testing texts, which leap around in a disorganized > fashion, without covering basic language learning tools which the > students then sadly lack." > > The only "battle" that needs to be fought here is the battle to get > teachers > (and school administrators) to follow the guidelines and instructions that > are set by the ministry which say that they should ONLY teach using > textbooks which have been APPROVED by the ministry! Had the teacher of > this > student followed those guidelines, your student would be learning from one > of the very many appropriate textbooks that our publishers produce. > > Adele > > > ----------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------------- > ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org > ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** > ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** > ----------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------