[gps-talkusers] Re: Seeing Eye GPS Issues

  • From: Ilkka Pirttimaa <ilkka.pirttimaa@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 01:18:35 +0300

It seems that Apple has better map data on your area, but it will vary. For
example Apple started with very poor map data in Europe, but they are
working hard to get it to the level it needs to be.


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Justin Hull <justinhull1@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Something interesting to note, I have noticed that Siri maps will give you
> your exact location and it has been dead  on to the exact digit and street
> location whereas in the seeing eye application it is usually off by at
> least half a block. Does anyone know why this might be?
>
> Thank you
> Have a great day.
> Justin Hull
>
> On Jul 15, 2013, at 3:52 PM, "Dale Leavens" <dleavens@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > I suspect some of this has to do with the phone network. Immediate
> access and response from the network cannot be guaranteed. Much will depend
> on current radio and digital traffic and reception further complicated by
> satellite reception issues. This must be one of the advantages to on-device
> map storage.
> >
> > there are large areas around here with no cellular reception or where
> one provider has coverage and another does not.
> >
> > Calculating speed and direction from the satellite signal should be very
> reliable and without interval timing issues depending only on how often the
> software samples the signals and the processing time required and of course
> GPS reception.
> >
> > I am guessing the on-line requirement of Seeing Eye will be it's main
> weakness. Certainly it leaves me uninterested between coverage and roaming,
> not very convenient.
> >
> > Dale Leavens.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Pierce" <kellytalk@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 5:00 PM
> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Seeing Eye GPS Issues
> >
> >
> >> The Finnish developer of Blind Square told AppleVis in a recent
> >> interview that he created an algorithm that determines someone’s
> >> walking speed by measuring the distance between multiple inquiries to
> >> the server, which can only be accessed every five seconds.  The
> >> algorithm can then accurately project someone’s location between
> >> server inquiries.  If a single developer working in his spare time can
> >> do this, why can’t the full time Sendero team accomplish the same
> >> thing?
> >>
> >> Kelly
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/15/13, Baracco, Andrew W <Andrew.Baracco@xxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> Used Blind Square in the same area in downtown Columbus, and it worked
> >>> flawlessly. Haven't tried it recently in a vehicle.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ilkka
> Pirttimaa
> >>> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:22 PM
> >>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Seeing Eye GPS Issues
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Did you compare, on same location, how BlindSquare announced
> >>> intersections, both walking and in a vehicle? Version 1.43 can do it on
> >>> very high speed, estimating your location "in future" to have all data
> >>> ready to be announced.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Baracco, Andrew W
> >>> <Andrew.Baracco@xxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I downloaded and installed this app shortly before leaving for the ACB
> >>> convention in Columbus OH, which I thought would be a great opportunity
> >>> to test the app in an unfamiliar environment. Like many, I was first
> >>> confused when the app was a free download, but had no functionality
> >>> until you purchased a subscription. I was surprised, because even if
> you
> >>> buy a car, you have a chance to test drive it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That being as it may, I couldn't wait to put it through its paces in
> >>> Ohio.  My first disappointment came when I discovered that it would not
> >>> announce intersections if you are traveling in a vehicle. I was so used
> >>> to this functionality in the Trekker, and I believe that it worked on
> >>> the Braillenote devices as well.  I found a button that I thought would
> >>> allow for adjustment of this parameter, but tapping it did nothing.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I also did a fair amount of walking in downtown Columbus, and was
> >>> disappointed there as well.  There was a significant lag in
> performance,
> >>> I. e. intersections and POI's would be announced long after I passed
> >>> them. Thank God I was walking with a sighted person. I was also
> >>> disappointed that the app relies exclusively on Voiceover, which is
> >>> often hard to understand in a noisy environment. Blind Square, and apps
> >>> like Navigon and Tom Tom offer additional voices. I think that for the
> >>> price, having a HQ voice isn't asking too much. I would also like to
> >>> have some control over the speed threshold for announcing
> intersections,
> >>> just like you can for POI's. I understand that this is a 1.0 release,
> >>> but perhaps there should have been a discount for those who purchase
> the
> >>> initial product.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Andy
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