[gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access

  • From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:12:03 -0700

Well that totally shoots my theory down.:)


I'd say then it has to be the quality of the data as Kevin's suggesting. I was thinking different receivers, especially the built in could have that effect but you took care of that.:)



----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Lookingbill" <seadolphink@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:23 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access


Hi Scott: - I used the N1000 pared on all test runs both to the wayfinder
and to the braille note.

Kim Lookingbill
kim@xxxxxxxxxxxx (email or MSN Messenger)

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-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:05 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access


Kim, I forget so sorry if this is obvious or you stated already.  Did you
use the same receiver for both test I.E. the M1000 or did you use the M1000
on the Sendero test and the built in Phone GPS on the wayfinder?

Thanks
Scott

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Lookingbill" <seadolphink@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:02 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access


Hi: - Well its not like the way finder is giving wrong information its
just
that its announcing roads that are not the actual road of which you're
passing by. . . Its projecting to far out and reporting information
several
blocks over, where the sendero maps correctly identified the road I was on
and the cross streets and business I was passing.  For example: the
sendero
maps correctly informed me that I was travelling down rt. #270 and what
was
around me,  whereas; the wayfinder kept telling me instead that I was on
rt.
#355 (rockville pike, although I was actually on rt. #270, and that I'm
passing roads that you can access from rt.#355 but absolutely do not
intersect with Rt. #270.  That probably why I asked the original question
of
whether there was a tip or trick to narrow scope the wayfinder.  Thanks.
As
soon as I'm able to get my cell phone back I'm gonna do some more tests.
Thanks and take care.

Kim Lookingbill
kim@xxxxxxxxxxxx (email or MSN Messenger)

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-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 6:44 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access


Kim,

I appreciate the fact that you took the time to run a comparison of
both WayFinder Access and the Sendero GPS. That is interesting that
the Sendero system seem to report information in a timely fashion and
the data was more accurate. This is  suppose to be one of the
advantage of server based data (which WayFinder Access is based
on)--that the data will be updated right away and should be more
accurate. This doesn't seem to be the case in this particular area in
which you tested.

If there is a particular set of newer shops that you tend to visit on
a regular basis, you could record them as User POIs, complete with
name, detail and subcategory information and submit them to be added
to the Collective User POIs. This is an ongoign growing  collection of
User POIs that continually get updated on a monthly basis. I believe
that there are over 11,000 User POIs in this compilation.

I encourage everyone to share their User POIs and help the Collective
User POI database ggrow.

It is like a digital footprint.

Thanks,

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim
Lookingbill
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:28 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access

Hi: - On the way home from work tonight, I used my braille note with
my N1000 gps reciever to make a comparison to the reading I was
obtaining from the Wayfinder.  The results I found was that The
Sendero maps were much more
accurate and more responsive reflecting a more real time road announcement
of my surroundings.  Now I can't wait for new maps to come out so it will
identify some of the new businesses (POI) within the area as new town
centers are erected around the metro area.  I was going to test my
wayfinder
tomorrow one more time on the way home, but unfortunately, I left my cell
phone in the taxi so I have to find a way to retrieve my cell phone first.

.
. Fortunately the driver had found it before it mysteriously disappeared.
.
. So I need to call the office at 8AM tomorrow so they can let me know how
their going to get it back to me.

Kim Lookingbill
kim@xxxxxxxxxxxx (email or MSN Messenger)

Blast From The Past
Sundays, 16 to 19 UTC

http://interactive.acbradio.org


-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 3:17 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access


Kim,

Yes, I think that  would be interesting to find  out--if the Sendero
GPS reports the same issue as WayFinder Access. If you find that the
Sendero GPS is reporting the correct information and you are using the
same receiver in
both situations, that being the Holux M-1000 then it is an issue of poor
mapping data in WayFinder Access. This is definitely possible as WayFinder
uses mapping data from Navteq while Sendero Group uses  mapping data from
Tele Atlas.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim
Lookingbill
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 11:16 AM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access

Hi: - I guess then it must be bad mapping since this is the suburbs
and
not
downtown with real tall buildings to bounce off, although there's lots of
buildings.  Also the roads it reports do not even intersect with the road
I'm on, though as I stated previously the two roads do run parallell to
each
other but a block or two apart.  I'm gonna do some more testing by taking
my
n1000 with my braille note and see if I get the same results or not. I'll
let you know when I do, though this won't be until Monday or Tuesday when
I
can do so.  Thanks for the response..

Kim Lookingbill
kim@xxxxxxxxxxxx (email or MSN Messenger)

Blast From The Past
Sundays, 16 to 19 UTC

http://interactive.acbradio.org


-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:42 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access


Kim,

Is  this issue of WayFinder Access reporting you as being  several
blocks from where you are specific to this area or is it something
that happens to a greater extent? This could be an issue of poor map
data or GPS drift, which is caused  from  signals  bouncing off of
tall or very tall buildings.
If it is something specific to this area and there are tall buildings then it could be an issue of GPS drift. But if it is something that is specific
to this area and there aren't tall buildings then the issue could be poor
mapping data. I have never experienced the Sendero GPS reporting me to be
no
more than 2 blocks at most off and that is in situations where multi-path
and drift are at its worst in San Francisco with sky scrapers.

Please provide us with more  information about the situation so we can
narrow down on what is happening.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim
Lookingbill
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:18 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access

Hi: - When using the N1000 with wayfinder access is there any way to
adjust
the reciever's viewing distance.  I'm finding that the reciever is
reaching
to far out and is reporting streets several streets over instead of the
actual streets being driven past.  For example: here in the DC metro area
if
I'm travelling down Rt. #270 (running parallell to Rt. #270 is Rt. #355,
however, the street itself is several blocks over), so I'm on Rt. #270,
the
N1000 reads pois and cross street on Rt. #355, instead of what I'm
actually
passing on Rt. #270.  Oh yes, and just a little trivia for everyone, Rt.
#355 is a road that travels through Montgomery County from the district to
the frederick county line; going north to south, and although it's the
same
road, it name changes four (4) times depending on the portion of road you
are on.  The four different names starting at the district line are: (1.)
wisconsin avenue, (2.) rockville pike, (3.) hungerford drive, (4.)
frederick
road.  So if there are any hints, tips, or tricks to narrow its scope of
view, that would be smashing. Thanks.

Kim Lookingbill
kim@xxxxxxxxxxxx (email or MSN Messenger)

Blast From The Past
Sundays, 16 to 19 UTC

http://interactive.acbradio.org


-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 2:09 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000


The receiver would perform the same no matter which PDA you used it
with.
It
is pretty darn sensitive.

I would remind users that the number of satellites isn't the final
word on the accuracy. If you are getting satellites inside or in an
urban canyon situation, the number of satellites might be high but the
quality of signal will be degraded. Always doublecheck the information
if accuracy matters.

Mike

At 05:52 AM 4/24/2008, Wendy Slominsky wrote:
Are you using this with PK or the like?
At 06:31 AM 4/24/2008, you wrote:
I thought I'd never be able to use the GPS in our new train carriages
(nothing else does), but so long as I have it turned on before I get
on the train the M1000 works perfectly.  Best investment I ever made.

Judi



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From: meearls@xxxxxxx
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Receiver Question:
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:06:32 -0700

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because Sense Nav overwrote the route that had been automatically
programmed into it before I went to the cell phone store. With the
Holux m1000, I have had a reading of 8 satellites clear across the
living room from the patio door. Mary Ellen Earls



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