[gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access

  • From: "Kim Lookingbill" <seadolphink@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:23:06 -0400

Hi Scott: - I used the N1000 pared on all test runs both to the wayfinder
and to the braille note.

Kim Lookingbill
kim@xxxxxxxxxxxx (email or MSN Messenger)

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-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:05 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access


Kim, I forget so sorry if this is obvious or you stated already.  Did you 
use the same receiver for both test I.E. the M1000 or did you use the M1000 
on the Sendero test and the built in Phone GPS on the wayfinder?

Thanks
Scott

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kim Lookingbill" <seadolphink@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:02 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access


> Hi: - Well its not like the way finder is giving wrong information its
> just
> that its announcing roads that are not the actual road of which you're
> passing by. . . Its projecting to far out and reporting information 
> several
> blocks over, where the sendero maps correctly identified the road I was on
> and the cross streets and business I was passing.  For example: the 
> sendero
> maps correctly informed me that I was travelling down rt. #270 and what 
> was
> around me,  whereas; the wayfinder kept telling me instead that I was on 
> rt.
> #355 (rockville pike, although I was actually on rt. #270, and that I'm
> passing roads that you can access from rt.#355 but absolutely do not
> intersect with Rt. #270.  That probably why I asked the original question 
> of
> whether there was a tip or trick to narrow scope the wayfinder.  Thanks. 
> As
> soon as I'm able to get my cell phone back I'm gonna do some more tests.
> Thanks and take care.
>
> Kim Lookingbill
> kim@xxxxxxxxxxxx (email or MSN Messenger)
>
> Blast From The Past
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 6:44 PM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access
>
>
> Kim,
>
> I appreciate the fact that you took the time to run a comparison of 
> both WayFinder Access and the Sendero GPS. That is interesting that 
> the Sendero system seem to report information in a timely fashion and 
> the data was more accurate. This is  suppose to be one of the 
> advantage of server based data (which WayFinder Access is based 
> on)--that the data will be updated right away and should be more 
> accurate. This doesn't seem to be the case in this particular area in 
> which you tested.
>
> If there is a particular set of newer shops that you tend to visit on 
> a regular basis, you could record them as User POIs, complete with 
> name, detail and subcategory information and submit them to be added 
> to the Collective User POIs. This is an ongoign growing  collection of 
> User POIs that continually get updated on a monthly basis. I believe 
> that there are over 11,000 User POIs in this compilation.
>
> I encourage everyone to share their User POIs and help the Collective 
> User POI database ggrow.
>
> It is like a digital footprint.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim 
> Lookingbill
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:28 PM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access
>
> Hi: - On the way home from work tonight, I used my braille note with 
> my N1000 gps reciever to make a comparison to the reading I was 
> obtaining from the Wayfinder.  The results I found was that The 
> Sendero maps were much more
> accurate and more responsive reflecting a more real time road announcement
> of my surroundings.  Now I can't wait for new maps to come out so it will
> identify some of the new businesses (POI) within the area as new town
> centers are erected around the metro area.  I was going to test my 
> wayfinder
> tomorrow one more time on the way home, but unfortunately, I left my cell
> phone in the taxi so I have to find a way to retrieve my cell phone first.

> .
> . Fortunately the driver had found it before it mysteriously disappeared. 
> .
> . So I need to call the office at 8AM tomorrow so they can let me know how
> their going to get it back to me.
>
> Kim Lookingbill
> kim@xxxxxxxxxxxx (email or MSN Messenger)
>
> Blast From The Past
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>
> http://interactive.acbradio.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 3:17 PM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access
>
>
> Kim,
>
> Yes, I think that  would be interesting to find  out--if the Sendero 
> GPS reports the same issue as WayFinder Access. If you find that the 
> Sendero GPS is reporting the correct information and you are using the 
> same receiver in
> both situations, that being the Holux M-1000 then it is an issue of poor
> mapping data in WayFinder Access. This is definitely possible as WayFinder
> uses mapping data from Navteq while Sendero Group uses  mapping data from
> Tele Atlas.
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim 
> Lookingbill
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 11:16 AM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access
>
> Hi: - I guess then it must be bad mapping since this is the suburbs 
> and
> not
> downtown with real tall buildings to bounce off, although there's lots of
> buildings.  Also the roads it reports do not even intersect with the road
> I'm on, though as I stated previously the two roads do run parallell to 
> each
> other but a block or two apart.  I'm gonna do some more testing by taking 
> my
> n1000 with my braille note and see if I get the same results or not.  I'll
> let you know when I do, though this won't be until Monday or Tuesday when 
> I
> can do so.  Thanks for the response..
>
> Kim Lookingbill
> kim@xxxxxxxxxxxx (email or MSN Messenger)
>
> Blast From The Past
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>
> http://interactive.acbradio.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:42 PM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access
>
>
> Kim,
>
> Is  this issue of WayFinder Access reporting you as being  several 
> blocks from where you are specific to this area or is it something 
> that happens to a greater extent? This could be an issue of poor map 
> data or GPS drift, which is caused  from  signals  bouncing off of 
> tall or very tall buildings.
> If it is something specific to this area and there are tall buildings then
> it could be an issue of GPS drift. But if it is something that is specific
> to this area and there aren't tall buildings then the issue could be poor
> mapping data. I have never experienced the Sendero GPS reporting me to be 
> no
> more than 2 blocks at most off and that is in situations where multi-path
> and drift are at its worst in San Francisco with sky scrapers.
>
> Please provide us with more  information about the situation so we can 
> narrow down on what is happening.
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim 
> Lookingbill
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:18 PM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000 & wayfinder access
>
> Hi: - When using the N1000 with wayfinder access is there any way to
> adjust
> the reciever's viewing distance.  I'm finding that the reciever is 
> reaching
> to far out and is reporting streets several streets over instead of the
> actual streets being driven past.  For example: here in the DC metro area 
> if
> I'm travelling down Rt. #270 (running parallell to Rt. #270 is Rt. #355,
> however, the street itself is several blocks over), so I'm on Rt. #270, 
> the
> N1000 reads pois and cross street on Rt. #355, instead of what I'm 
> actually
> passing on Rt. #270.  Oh yes, and just a little trivia for everyone, Rt.
> #355 is a road that travels through Montgomery County from the district to
> the frederick county line; going north to south, and although it's the 
> same
> road, it name changes four (4) times depending on the portion of road you
> are on.  The four different names starting at the district line are: (1.)
> wisconsin avenue, (2.) rockville pike, (3.) hungerford drive, (4.) 
> frederick
> road.  So if there are any hints, tips, or tricks to narrow its scope of
> view, that would be smashing. Thanks.
>
> Kim Lookingbill
> kim@xxxxxxxxxxxx (email or MSN Messenger)
>
> Blast From The Past
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>
> http://interactive.acbradio.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 2:09 PM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The M1000
>
>
> The receiver would perform the same no matter which PDA you used it 
> with.
> It
> is pretty darn sensitive.
>
> I would remind users that the number of satellites isn't the final 
> word on the accuracy. If you are getting satellites inside or in an 
> urban canyon situation, the number of satellites might be high but the 
> quality of signal will be degraded. Always doublecheck the information 
> if accuracy matters.
>
> Mike
>
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>>At 06:31 AM 4/24/2008, you wrote:
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>>>(nothing else does), but so long as I have it turned on before I get 
>>>on the train the M1000 works perfectly.  Best investment I ever made.
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Receiver Question:
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>>>
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>>>
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