Mike. Yes, this is a very unique use of manual routes in virtual mmode, but it sounds like it is very useful and handy. I will give it a shot the next time I am planning a route and want to determine the best possible route without doing so much backtracking. Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael May" <mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "GPS-talkusers-freelists.org" <GPS-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 7:44 AM Subject: [gps-talkusers] a unique use for manual and virtual routes >I am working on a trip to Europe and used the Sendero GPS route recording >features to help me figure out the shortest route to visit 8 cities. I went >to a GeoCoding web site and typed in the name of the city and country and >got the lat/lon for that city. I set that lat/lon as my virtual position. I >then recorded a manual waypoint at that virtual position. I repeated these >steps for each city. > > Then, I rearranged the waypoints, checking after I moved each point to see > what the total route distance was. I wanted to minimize the amount of back > tracking we do. This is a rough estimate but it was a fantastic tool to > help in understanding the distances and direction between the various > cities. > > The other useful aspect of creating a virtual route using a city lat/lon, > is so that I can quickly place myself in that city without having to know > an address. Once I load the route, I can go to any of the waypoints and > set it as my virtual position. This works of course in countries where we > have maps but also in countries where we don't. Maybe someone could take > on the ambitious project of creating a waypoint for every country. You > could then set any country as your virtual position and find out how far > it was from any other country. > > The url for the geo coding site is > http://stevemorse.org/jcal/latlon.php > It is very accessible. > > Mike > > > > Michael G. May > > CEO Sendero Group > > Developers and distributors of BrailleNote GPS > Distributing BrailleNote, VoiceNote, Talks, Miniguide, The Tissot Silen-T > tactile watch, and the ID Mate bar code reader > > MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.SenderoGroup.com > > 1-888-757-6810, Fax (530) 757-6830, Mobile (530) 304-0007 > Sendero Group, LLC > 1118 Maple Lane, Davis, CA 95616-1723, USA > > Latitude, 38 33 9.239 North > Longitude, 121 45 40.145 West > >