[Ilugc] Interview of Linus Torvalds; He Also Speaks Of Sad Situation Of India
- From: girishvenkatachalam@xxxxxxxxx (Girish Venkatachalam)
- Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:56:50 +0530
See below.
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:33 PM, kenneth gonsalves
<lawgon at thenilgiris.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 13:13 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
Interesting discussion this.
I have trained many batches in companies like CTS, Wipro et al.
Quality of students are a function of the starting pay and the brand
of the
?company.
not my experience
Okay my comment was not globally applicable. I am talking only about
fresh batches
I have trained.
No offense meant to CTS, but the quality of students I found in CTS
though it is the
biggest IT brand in Chennai I think(It is an American company on
paper but it is
Chennai based for all practical purposes) was very poor.
But I found better folks in Wipro.
And the college factor also matters. If you did well in 12th standard
you would have got into a great college and a great branch like ECE.
So that is another factor. It is not binding and universal, only a ballpark.
?I found good students in a Ford fresher batch and guess what,
?they were wearing T-shirts. Even girls.
So obviously they understand what they are doing. They say they are
paid
?4L per annum.
pay has nothing to do with it.
Well when I chose my job in campus I did not care about it. But well
it usually is that
you get paid really well if you get into a really good company.
Pay has something to do with attracting good talent both as freshers
and later but it
is not the only thing.
People in general work well and learn well if they are paid well and
groomed well.
see above
What is grooming? Having good seniors at work and getting engineers to do real
engineering instead of plainjane testing, enhancement and low challenge jobs.
Freshers cannot expect sexy work from day one but your chances are
really high if
you are placed in good places.
The difference lies in focus and passion for continuing on and on and
on.
that is correct - and contradicts what you said before
Sorry I was not being very clear. Even now I am not. Nowadays my brain
has numbed probably due to age. ;)
Anyway my point is that people become competent when their passion for
technology and learning offsets all other social pressure.
The mysterious Indian middle class in which all of us belong want
money, social acceptance and face up to peer pressure.
In this complex situation even highly motivated people cannot stay
technical beyond the
fifth year of working.
There is simply no future for them if they stick to technology.
And until one gets around 15 years of experience one cannot do great work.
You won't get skills in 5 or 7 years. It takes more than 15 years.
actually research shows it as 10 years (strangely enough the same is
true for golf)
Nice observation. ;)
I have no idea about golf. I was talking about middle class and you
are talking about a
sport that is the clearest indication of extreme affluence. ;)
I dunno if Gilli which is a beautiful Indian game for the poor takes
that long. ;)
Just joking.
-Girish
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G3 Tech
Networking appliance company
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