[jawsscripts] Re: MSAA

  • From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:58:56 +1100

Hey Brian, man
could you please comment upon the precise and specific differences,  that
you personally find, between, say, doug's BX toolBox, and what Jim's JLS
utilities tool both do/offer?
advantages of one over the other etc?
and then I know that I think is it Jamal? also makes another exploritory
utility called the homer scripts?
I think they are called?
? and michael curren from australia, who I know for a fact
managed to eek out a lot of MSAA code for handling sonar's toolbar, all
kinds of amazing stuff like being able to check and uncheck and thus
obviously monitor various tools states through the usage of spaceBar etc.
and he makes something called jfwTechnical I think?

and in addition, now I've heard that you have produced something recently
that your selling called JTools!  So, would you care to share your insights
as to all of this? and also just why you've thought it worth producing what
I presume without yet investigating, is your own subset/toolbox  of these
exploration tools?
That'd be cool if you'd like to do that.

thanks.


 "Brian Hartgen" <jaws@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 7:27 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: MSAA


> The JAWS Toolbox from Doug is a great tool for exploring MSAA information
> and I like the fact that it is very easy to install and use.
> However, just because I know it really well, for years I have used Jim
> Snowbarger's JLS scripting Utilities for my various projects.  I don't use
> them when I script at customer sites because they are reasonably complex
to
> install, but I have them installed here at home where I do quite a lot of
> work and there is a whole suite of tools in there related to grabbing MSAA
> information.
> I don't see too much mention of these utilities on this list, but they are
> now free of charge and can be downloaded from Jim's web site at
> www.snowmanradio.com
> Jim taught me a great deal when I was starting out scripting about 7 or 8
> years ago now, and it was about this time when he started developing the
JLS
> utilities.  So if you haven't taken the time to look at those, you may
care
> to do so.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan C
[IT]
> Sent: 05 December 2008 16:56
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: MSAA
>
> I found the 'bx' tool to be much more understandable when researching
MSAA.
> I still have a long way to go, but I have gotten Communicator to do quite
a
> bit.
>
> In terms of checking for MSAA, the MSN scripts have a  if statement that
> appears to check this.  I can search the code if you need me too.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donald Marang
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:50 AM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] MSAA
>
> How do you find out if the application you are scripting uses MSAA?  Is
this
> something a developer does consciously, or is it generated automatically
by
> the development environment?  Where can I find information about MSAA from
> an accessibility tool (JAWS) viewpoint rather than the application
> perspective?  I know the Home Row Utilities can reveal some MSAA info, but
I
> have not taken the time to figure it out yet.  Besides, I do not know any
of
> the structure or terminology.
> Don Marang
>
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