Mighty scripters! I've just discovered something that probably everyone else knew already, But I certainly didn't until tonight, and I thought might be kinda handy for more than one of you out here. I know it's not often we need such an alternative, but, does one not feel there are just occasionally those times in life where it may come in handy to be able to operate a CheckBox with no Speech, as in, when you accidentally manage to mute your volume control, or you've played around so much between master and the WaveOut mix trying to play the dancyNancy game of, "which wave output/master control have I muted/unmuted now!" type deal, that one gets lost in the murkyness of the dreaded "one key toggle" game? of course normally we'd just operate checkBox toggles with spaceBar, and rely on the speech output to inform us whether it's checked or not? well, on my keyboard on my system in xp Home here anywayz, I think I've discovered an alternate Absolute keyboard method for doing this. In fact there are a couple of interesting methods that appear to work here on my win xp home box. I haven't tested this under wineyes yet, so don't take this as Gospel yet all wineyes users, But, under jaws, when it's set to it's default KeyMap of NumPad Plus being snaffled to activate PC Cursor, and NumPad Minus to activate the jaws Cursor, in this state, if you hit Shift+NumPad Minus, it seems to absolutely uncheck/untick a checkBox, and shift+NumPad Plus, will absolutely check it, no matter how many times each is pressed. if Jaws isn't loaded, and those keys are free to do their nnormal functions, then plain NumPad Minus and Plus, without the shift, will do the same Job. Not only this, but, on my machine here, on the top Row of number keys, TopRow minus, i.e. the key directly to the right of topRow zero,will uncheck a CheckBox, and, kinda strangely, ,both equals, and ShiftEquals, (which of course is top Row Plus,) will both work to check a CheckBox. so, there you go. is that not at least mildly interesting? Has definite possibilities for scripts and macro recordings eh. Geoff c. __________ Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts