[jawsscripts] Re: NoSpeech absolute method of toggling checkboxes.
- From: Doug Lee <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:08:54 -0500
Interesting! I do see that NumPadMinus/Plus, and also regular dash
and equals or plus, uncheck and check standard checkboxes absolutely,
without toggling. I don't see this on all non-standard checkboxes
though. In other words, this approach would need to be tested on a
particular checkbox before being relied upon. It will probably work
on the checkboxes found in most applications that come with Windows
and those built with standard controls. The might indeed be of
interest to users of Dragon and other assistive technology.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:45:38AM +1100, Geoff Chapman wrote:
Mighty scripters!
I've just discovered something that probably everyone else knew already,
But I certainly didn't until tonight, and
I thought might be kinda handy for more than one of you out here.
I know it's not often we need such an alternative, but, does one not feel
there are just occasionally those times in life where it may come in handy to
be able to operate a CheckBox with no Speech, as in, when you accidentally
manage to mute your volume control, or you've played around so much between
master and the WaveOut mix trying to play the dancyNancy game of, "which wave
output/master control
have I muted/unmuted now!" type deal, that one gets lost in the murkyness of
the dreaded "one key toggle" game?
of course normally we'd just operate checkBox toggles with spaceBar, and rely
on the speech output to inform us whether it's checked or not?
well, on my keyboard on my system in xp Home here anywayz,
I think I've discovered an alternate Absolute keyboard method for doing this.
In fact there are a couple of interesting methods that appear to work here on
my win xp home box.
I haven't tested this under wineyes yet, so don't take this as Gospel yet all
wineyes users,
But, under jaws, when it's set to it's default KeyMap of NumPad Plus being
snaffled to activate PC Cursor, and NumPad Minus to activate the jaws Cursor,
in this state, if you hit Shift+NumPad Minus,
it seems to absolutely uncheck/untick a checkBox, and shift+NumPad Plus, will
absolutely check it, no matter how many times each is pressed.
if Jaws isn't loaded, and those keys are free to do their nnormal functions,
then plain NumPad Minus and Plus,
without the shift, will do the same Job.
Not only this, but, on my machine here, on the top Row of number keys, TopRow
minus, i.e. the key directly to the right of topRow zero,will uncheck a
CheckBox,
and, kinda strangely, ,both equals, and ShiftEquals, (which of course is top
Row Plus,) will both work to check a CheckBox.
so, there you go. is that not at least mildly interesting?
Has definite possibilities for scripts and macro recordings eh.
Geoff c.
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