[jawsscripts] Re: Putting application windows in the virtual buffer
- From: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:13:38 -0400
Good morning Geoff,
I don't even think that the FSDN is written in a way to be particularly
useful to developers. It is certainly better than no documentation at all,
but there is not as much information as one might like.
I suppose the trade off is that FS could pay someone to improve the
documentation, or to improve JAWS.
I am hoping to do some work on JAWSWiki this week. But, the success of the
resource lies in multiple contributors. I do not have the time, or the
comprehensive knowledge, to create a thorough resource myself.
Since the site is a Wiki anyone can contribute. And, even if an individuals
contribution isn't 100% perfect others can come in and make improvements
upon it.
Thanks,
Everett
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 10:42 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Putting application windows in the virtual buffer
> Hi chad.
> When you indicate below, reading through the documentation for the
> functions, is the fsdn still the best and only real formatted
> documentation
> available for scripting function examination?
> Because, well from the perspective of a greeny scripty newby, I find
> myself
> often not feeling examination of that source, particularly helpful, as it
> doesn't seem to be real
> big on comprehensiveness, when it comes to trying to learn the ins and
> outs
> of scripting functions. Does anyone else feel similarly?
> or am I the only one.
> And trying to then supplement/fill in the gaps by seeking to
> reverse-engineer real Live examples, in my view
> can certainly be a hard slog way to learn, when your a newby?
> or am I whining unwarrantedly here. <grin.>
>
> e.g. there's nothing in there, about how to make jaws say, "link," or not,
> to indicate to the user that hitting enter will do something, on lines of
> userBuffer text when adding those secondary functions of which you speak,
> which get activated when enter is pressed.
> Can anyone possibly guide me as to this?
>
> I Guess the new scripting "wiki?" is it called? when it's up, will help to
> fill in these gaps, but, well, if I may express a rather "null" point of
> view, (to keep my whine all cody sounding, <smile.)
> I personally feel It would've been rather welcome, had the FSDN been
> written
> somewhat more comprehensively I reckon. It's certainly written more from
> the perspective of people who already know quite a huge amount of what
> they're about, (i.e. developers, as it's name certainly suggests,)
> not for those lower down the hierarchy.
>
> lastly, I have investigated all f1 combinations I can think of, and simply
> cannot remember that magic keystroke, which my vague memory indicated,
> you could hit from the insert functions dialog, which might've either
> brought up the whole FSDN text right there in script manager to look at,
> or
> some other more comprehensive description of a given function, than the
> straight ahead description text in the insert functions dialog? is this
> true? or did I imagine it.
>
> thanks.
>
> Geoff c.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <chad.foster@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 3:45 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Putting application windows in the virtual
> buffer
>
>
>> You are creating links. Just like hyperlinks on the Internet point
>> somewhere, links in your User Buffer have to point somewhere. In the
>> case of the User Buffer however, they must point to an action for a
>> given program, not to an Internet address.
>>
>> If you are just populating the User Buffer with text and no links,
>> then you do not need to use the function parameters for the functions
>> I outlined.
>>
>> I recommend reading the documentation for these functions and
>> searching through Default.jss for examples.
>>
>> On 12/24/08, Andy Borka <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > The program I am looking at is MS Money 2005. Any other recommendations
> on
>> > getting the main window into the virtual buffer? I guess I don't quite
> get
>> > how you get the contents into the buffer exactly and what do you mean
>> > by
> I
>> > have to write the actions for link clicks manually?
>> >
>> > Twitter: www.twitter.com/sonfire
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> > chad.foster@xxxxxxxxxx
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 9:55 AM
>> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Putting application windows in the virtual
> buffer
>> >
>> > See the UserBuffer functions. UserBufferAddText is the one that allows
>> > you to specify functions for links in the User Buffer.
>> >
>> > I usually call SayFormattedMessage with the output type of
>> > OT_USER_BUFFER to start the User Buffer, then add text using the
>> > function above. This gives you the desired effect for the say all.
>> >
>> > Optionally, you can add all of the text, then use the
>> > UserBufferActivate function to bring the User Buffer to the forefront.
>> > The avenue you choose depends on if the User Buffer clouds the
>> > processing logic (obscures windows etc.) required to build its
>> > contents.
>> >
>> > You need to write the functions to execute when the user clicks ENTER
>> > on one of those User Buffer links, which executes the desired
>> > activity.
>> >
>> >
>> > Good luck,
>> >
>> > On 12/24/08, Andy Borka <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> I have an application that uses its main window as an html_server
> class.
>> >> I know for sure that it is html content since it has links and stuff
>> >> in
>> >> it. Was just wondering how you put it in the virtual buffer and show
>> >> it
>> >> like a web page?
>> >>
>> >>
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