[jawsscripts] Wiki stuff, was Putting application windows in the virtual buffer
- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 03:23:21 +1100
hi everet.
Thanks for this confirmation eh.
I don't feel quite as whiny now. <grin.>
and, please dont feel pressure on how much time you put into the wiki.
actually if you'd like my feedback on the issue, I personally feel, that
perhaps,
initially anyway,
any time you might have, to devote to the actual wiki content,
we *might* be better served all round
by you perhaps instead, consider designing a little, "how to," starter
stimulater tutorial, to educate us noBrainers on how to edit and/or utilize
the wiki software?
Certainly I reckon putting the address of the wiki site at the bottom of
each list post, along with those other links, I reckon would be a great
start to helping get it all into our heads that it is up there etc?
Or do people think this is a poor suggestion just covering up for pure
lazyness on my part etc. I'm sure everet would be open to feedback on this.
Geoff c.
----- Original Message -----
From: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 2:13 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Putting application windows in the virtual buffer
> Good morning Geoff,
>
> I don't even think that the FSDN is written in a way to be particularly
> useful to developers. It is certainly better than no documentation at
all,
> but there is not as much information as one might like.
>
> I suppose the trade off is that FS could pay someone to improve the
> documentation, or to improve JAWS.
>
> I am hoping to do some work on JAWSWiki this week. But, the success of
the
> resource lies in multiple contributors. I do not have the time, or the
> comprehensive knowledge, to create a thorough resource myself.
>
> Since the site is a Wiki anyone can contribute. And, even if an
individuals
> contribution isn't 100% perfect others can come in and make improvements
> upon it.
>
> Thanks,
> Everett
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 10:42 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Putting application windows in the virtual buffer
>
>
> > Hi chad.
> > When you indicate below, reading through the documentation for the
> > functions, is the fsdn still the best and only real formatted
> > documentation
> > available for scripting function examination?
> > Because, well from the perspective of a greeny scripty newby, I find
> > myself
> > often not feeling examination of that source, particularly helpful, as
it
> > doesn't seem to be real
> > big on comprehensiveness, when it comes to trying to learn the ins and
> > outs
> > of scripting functions. Does anyone else feel similarly?
> > or am I the only one.
> > And trying to then supplement/fill in the gaps by seeking to
> > reverse-engineer real Live examples, in my view
> > can certainly be a hard slog way to learn, when your a newby?
> > or am I whining unwarrantedly here. <grin.>
> >
> > e.g. there's nothing in there, about how to make jaws say, "link," or
not,
> > to indicate to the user that hitting enter will do something, on lines
of
> > userBuffer text when adding those secondary functions of which you
speak,
> > which get activated when enter is pressed.
> > Can anyone possibly guide me as to this?
> >
> > I Guess the new scripting "wiki?" is it called? when it's up, will help
to
> > fill in these gaps, but, well, if I may express a rather "null" point of
> > view, (to keep my whine all cody sounding, <smile.)
> > I personally feel It would've been rather welcome, had the FSDN been
> > written
> > somewhat more comprehensively I reckon. It's certainly written more
from
> > the perspective of people who already know quite a huge amount of what
> > they're about, (i.e. developers, as it's name certainly suggests,)
> > not for those lower down the hierarchy.
> >
> > lastly, I have investigated all f1 combinations I can think of, and
simply
> > cannot remember that magic keystroke, which my vague memory indicated,
> > you could hit from the insert functions dialog, which might've either
> > brought up the whole FSDN text right there in script manager to look at,
> > or
> > some other more comprehensive description of a given function, than the
> > straight ahead description text in the insert functions dialog? is this
> > true? or did I imagine it.
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > Geoff c.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <chad.foster@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 3:45 AM
> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Putting application windows in the virtual
> > buffer
> >
> >
> >> You are creating links. Just like hyperlinks on the Internet point
> >> somewhere, links in your User Buffer have to point somewhere. In the
> >> case of the User Buffer however, they must point to an action for a
> >> given program, not to an Internet address.
> >>
> >> If you are just populating the User Buffer with text and no links,
> >> then you do not need to use the function parameters for the functions
> >> I outlined.
> >>
> >> I recommend reading the documentation for these functions and
> >> searching through Default.jss for examples.
> >>
> >> On 12/24/08, Andy Borka <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > The program I am looking at is MS Money 2005. Any other
recommendations
> > on
> >> > getting the main window into the virtual buffer? I guess I don't
quite
> > get
> >> > how you get the contents into the buffer exactly and what do you mean
> >> > by
> > I
> >> > have to write the actions for link clicks manually?
> >> >
> >> > Twitter: www.twitter.com/sonfire
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> >> > chad.foster@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 9:55 AM
> >> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Putting application windows in the virtual
> > buffer
> >> >
> >> > See the UserBuffer functions. UserBufferAddText is the one that
allows
> >> > you to specify functions for links in the User Buffer.
> >> >
> >> > I usually call SayFormattedMessage with the output type of
> >> > OT_USER_BUFFER to start the User Buffer, then add text using the
> >> > function above. This gives you the desired effect for the say all.
> >> >
> >> > Optionally, you can add all of the text, then use the
> >> > UserBufferActivate function to bring the User Buffer to the
forefront.
> >> > The avenue you choose depends on if the User Buffer clouds the
> >> > processing logic (obscures windows etc.) required to build its
> >> > contents.
> >> >
> >> > You need to write the functions to execute when the user clicks ENTER
> >> > on one of those User Buffer links, which executes the desired
> >> > activity.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Good luck,
> >> >
> >> > On 12/24/08, Andy Borka <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> I have an application that uses its main window as an html_server
> > class.
> >> >> I know for sure that it is html content since it has links and stuff
> >> >> in
> >> >> it. Was just wondering how you put it in the virtual buffer and show
> >> >> it
> >> >> like a web page?
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
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> >>
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