Hi Shan,
Finally I made MS Teams to work under Windows 7. Narrator can be also ran
with a hotkey under Windows 7, or even better, NVDA can be ran the same way
if JAWS goes crazy. Windows 10 is not fully accessible with JAWS yet, or at
least it wasn't before the March update of JAWS.
From my experience Zoom is not very easy to use. If you want to call very
fast somebody and have a very short conversation to tell him/her something
very quickly, you need to create a session, send him/her that long number,
but Zoom doesn't offer any possibility of sending it, so you need to use
another application, and what application can be used on a PC for doing
this?
Zoom might be useless if you need to send that number by Skype, MS Teams or
another chatting application, and the other person might not have an account
in those applications. Sending it by email is not fast enough.
Is there another way of using it that I don't know?
I think that Zoom is good mostly for mobile phone users, especially for
sighted mobile phone users that also need to do a video chat. For them is
also not very hard to get that long number from WhatsApp and use it in Zoom.
Instead of making the effort of memorising a 10 digit number I think that it
would be more simple to simply call the other person on the phone.
Please correct me if you think that I am wrong, because I might learn
something that I don't know.
And btw, thanks for that list of hotkeys.
--Octavian
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From: "Shan Noyes" <shan.noyes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: my experience of using teams with jaws!!!
Oops sorry didn't think of that because our company has switched over to
windows 10. Which I really really like. Especially if one has a problem
and jaws stops talking then one can always quickly start up narrator.
p.s. by the way Microsoft has just announced that they will be including
teams with all Microsoft accounts. Which means anyone with a windows new
computer will get teams. So it sounds like the skype days maybe limited
and skype will go the way of that famous flightless bird the dodo.
If you are looking for a communication application check out zoom. But
make sure you keep the application up to date as well as use all the
security features. Zoom had a few issues last week, but the majority were
around folks not using features like passwords on their invitations as
well as the waiting room. Jonathan Mosen has written a book about using
zoom with jaws and during the covid19 issue he has made the book
favailable for free.
Echeck it out. zoom is extremely easy to use. And one can get it for
phones as well. It works great.
Have a good day.
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Thank you Shan and Doug for the advices regarding Teams. I am trying to
find a better Skype alternative and your messages are helpful.
Under Windows 7 however, I think that Teams remains inaccessible for JAWS,
no matter if it is restarted or not, so it is probably useful only when
using it under Windows 10.
--Octavian
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From: "Shan Noyes" <shan.noyes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2020 1:02 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] my experience of using teams with jaws!!!
Hi all!
Since the new norm is to be working from home and I'm now on my 4th
week of working from home and we use teams a lot I've discovered a lot
of things that makes teams and jaws really nice and easy to use.
1. The first thing is get your hands on the key board shortcuts.
They make your life very nice. Whe I started out in teams I use to
tab around a lot. It drove me nuts. But now with the short cut keys
and a bit of work I no longer tab much at all.
Use the control key with numbers 1 through 5. The important one is
control
+ 2 this puts the chat recent list in focus.
One can jump back and forth through you recent chats by holding down
the alt key and hit the up or down arrow keys. Its great. Sure beats
the tabbing back to the chat list and then arrowing up and down until
you find the person you want to chat too. Just use the alt and up or
down arrow keys and as the screen changes to another person on the
recent chat window it will tell you who it is.
Enter in your chat messages in the chat message window and when you
hit enter it just sends it. When the person writes back the
notification will tell you what they said. But if you didn't catch it
then shift tab from the chat input window and you can arrow up and read
the conversation.
The other thing that drove me nuts was the difficulty of setting my
status. I would tab around until the cows came home sometimes I would
find the area to change m my status and sometimes not.
Well again the short cut keys come to the rescue.
Control + the slash jumps you into the command window area, and so you
can either cursor down, or just type the word available and hit enter
and the status will get updated and it tells you, or to see the
options use the down arrow keys to see the choices and hit enter on the
one you want.
Another important key stroke is the control + period key this will
show the keyboard short cuts.
The only problem I've encountered with teams is when I switch over to
it from another program sometimes jaws is messed up. So a quick
windows key and up arrow to maxiumize the window often fixes this, or
if I'm not sure a control + 2 to pull the recent chat window helps things
as well.
Sorry about the long email. But I wanted to give or outline things
that I've discovered while using teams. It works very very nicely with
jaws.
Take care everyone and have a good day.
Shan Noyes
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