[jawsscripts] Re: scripting noobie (again)
- From: Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 13:36:58 -0700
OT_NO_DISABLE is supposed to do that.
On 7/4/10, Martin Slack <m.g.slack@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Have you looked in the insert+v dialog (Adjust JAWS Options) under Editing
> Options where you can turn Typing Echo off?
>
> hth
>
> Martin
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:01 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: scripting noobie (again)
>
>
> I do not mean to just pass it through. I want jaws to see that it was
> pressed, but not speak it. For example, maybe I want to silence the
> universal alt+tab keystroke you use to move from open app to open app
> in Windows. Putting aside the possible location of the script, the
> idea is that you press alt+tab and just hear the name of the newly
> open window, NOT "alt tab". It seems that passing sayMessage an empty
> string will do this, but I wondered if there was a better way.
> You are right that pausing will not work. The problem is not so much
> that it is a fast-paced game, but that it is impossible to know how
> long the message will take to be spoken since everyone's speaking rate
> is different. Is there a flag that would force the message to be
> spoken fully before any other messages come in?
>
> On 7/4/10, Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Alex, if u don't want jaws to do anything w/it, just delete it. No
>> sense havin a script that's just gonna pass a keystroke to the app.
>>
>> U could have a delay(2) or something like that following the pause,
>> but, in a game like that, I'd think time is of the essence, & delays
>> would be unwanted.
>>
>> On 7/4/10, Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Pause makes some of it spoken. I think I will just settle for
>>> silencing the keystroke, for this program at least. Is there a more
>>> eloquent way of doing that than just passing sayMessage an empty
>>> string or a space? That is, use the same script I already have, but
>>> just tell jaws to not speak that keystroke?
>>>
>>> On 7/4/10, Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Alex, in a case like this, the message likely needs to be spoken *b4*
>>>> the keystroke is passed to the app. It may also help to insert a
>>>> pause() statement, after the message but prior to passing the
>>>> keystroke along.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry about the error earlier. This is what I get for relying on aging
>>>> ram. I'll check out the game. Maybe I'll like it. Could always use
>>>> another game to play.
>>>>
>>>> On 7/4/10, Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> A game from
>>>>> http://www.gmagames.com
>>>>> called Time of Conflict. It uses a good deal of keyboard keys to move
>>>>> units, create units, and so on, and I figured I would put together a
>>>>> script for jaws users that provides a more helpful message for these
>>>>> hotkeys. For example, if you are on one of your units and press
>>>>> control plus i, you move that unit north one cell, so my first script
>>>>> should say "unit north one cell". The unit moves, but the message is
>>>>> not spoken. Instead, the next message from the game is spoken, in this
>>>>> case telling me that a new turn has started. My next program is a
>>>>> media player called Mapler from
>>>>> http://www.mar-dy.com
>>>>> but that one will be after I get this one done.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/4/10, Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> What program r u scripting, Alex?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/4/10, Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> There, it worked. As a note, at least in jaws11, it seems to have to
>>>>>>> be TypeCurrentScriptKey, without the "name" at the end. Now my
>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>> is not being spoken at all, but I suspect that this is the program I
>>>>>>> am scripting for. It interfaces directly with jaws as well, so I
>>>>>>> figure my message is being pushed aside by a message from the
>>>>>>> program.
>>>>>>> Not sure how to solve this one, but at least the keystroke is not
>>>>>>> being spoken anymore, and I can apply this to another program which
>>>>>>> will be better because it does not speak through jaws at an api level
>>>>>>> like this program does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/4/10, Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>> No, Alex, it's Jaws. If a script is present, Jaws uses that
>>>>>>>> keystroke
>>>>>>>> for itself unless the script instructs it to pass the keystroke to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> app. Try typing in TypeCurrentScriptKeyName() follwoing or preceding
>>>>>>>> the message being spoken & see if that doesn't solve your problem,
>>>>>>>> ok?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/4/10, Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!! My message is spoken. Oddly, though, the keystroke now
>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>> nothing in the program, as though jaws is eating it instead of
>>>>>>>>> catching it and passing it along. Is this the ot_No_DISABLE flag,
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> something specific in the program? That is, is it my script, or the
>>>>>>>>> program itself?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/10, Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Alex, this is quite straightforward. Firstly, from the application
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> which u desire the keystroke to work, press insert 0 to open
>>>>>>>>>> script
>>>>>>>>>> manager.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Next, type in the following lines:
>>>>>>>>>> include "hjconst.jsh"
>>>>>>>>>> include "hjglobal.jsh"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now, press control e to bring up the new script dialog. Name your
>>>>>>>>>> script, check the 'can be attached to keystroke' box, write in a
>>>>>>>>>> synopsis & description, choose a category if desired, assign your
>>>>>>>>>> keystroke, & activate the ok button.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> U didn't say which key to assign, so, I'll take insert dash as an
>>>>>>>>>> example. There are several ways this can be done.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The code looks like:
>>>>>>>>>> const
>>>>>>>>>> SALEXMSG = "Sock it to me baby, let it all hang out."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> script SpeakAlexMessage()
>>>>>>>>>> ; insert dash
>>>>>>>>>> sayMessage(ot_NO_DISABLE, SALEXMSG)
>>>>>>>>>> endScript
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the insert dash is simply a comment telling the key assignment.
>>>>>>>>>> Press
>>>>>>>>>> ctrl s & compile. Your key should now work just fine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Another way to do this is to put the constant in a .jsh or .jsm
>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>> include it in the script, as so:
>>>>>>>>>> include "hjconst.jsh"
>>>>>>>>>> include "hjglobal.jsh"
>>>>>>>>>> include "alex.jsh"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then the .jsh file would contain the definition of SALEXMSG as
>>>>>>>>>> above
>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>> the script can use it to speak the message just as I illustrated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Including a message file is a bit different. One usually does this
>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>> there are many messages, &/or the messages need to be formatted.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It looks like:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> messages
>>>>>>>>>> @MSGAlexMSG
>>>>>>>>>> Sock it to me baby, let it all hang out.
>>>>>>>>>> @@
>>>>>>>>>> EndMessages
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The file begins w/messages & ends w/endMessages. Each message
>>>>>>>>>> begins
>>>>>>>>>> w/an @ sign, followed by the message name. Press enter, type your
>>>>>>>>>> message, including line feeds, etc., & when done, put 2 @ signs to
>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/10, Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>> I was on here several months ago, trying to figure out how to
>>>>>>>>>>> write
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> basic script for jaws that would speak a hard-coded message when
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> key
>>>>>>>>>>> was pressed instead of speaking the keystroke itself. I am again
>>>>>>>>>>> trying to solve this problem, but I cannot locate any responses I
>>>>>>>>>>> received last time around. I am a long-time jaws user, and am
>>>>>>>>>>> comfortable in Python and Java, but the Jaws scripting language
>>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>> somewhat clunky and not as smooth or straightforward, though that
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> from an self-proclaimed scripting newb.
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a simple way of doing this? That is, catch a keystroke,
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> speak a message in place of speaking the keys pressed. I
>>>>>>>>>>> apologize
>>>>>>>>>>> that I am asking again, but I now have more time than I had
>>>>>>>>>>> before.
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> wish I could locate the emails I had from my last try, but I am
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> sure where they would be.
>>>>>>>>>>> I have read through the scripts to Jamal Mazrui's Edsharp
>>>>>>>>>>> program,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> I could not find where he set things up to speak custom messages.
>>>>>>>>>>> For
>>>>>>>>>>> example, in that program with the scripts installed, jaws will
>>>>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>>>>>> "save" when control-s is pressed, and not "control s" at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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