[jawsscripts] virtualizing Window reports no Text in Itunes.
- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:48:25 +1000
nope, no joy dennis. still reports "no text," even after jaws cursor
activation. very odd.
any further hints to offer anyone?
Brian h?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Brown" <DennisTBrown@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:21 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis Brown
> What if you activate the jaws cursor prior to virtualizing the window?
Does
> that get it?
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis Brown
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:24 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis Brown
>
>
> > hmmm. ITunes does that as well. i.e. virtualizing window reports this
same
> > "no text" phenominon. anyone got any ideas why this would be though?
when
> > there is clearly text in the window that the jaws cursor can read?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 5:41 AM
> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis Brown
> >
> >
> >> Dennis,
> >> I tried to virtualized the window, but it said that the window contains
> >> no
> > text.
> >> The only things that are constant are graphics in the crate list and
the
> > track list.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Dennis Brown
> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:12 AM
> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis Brown
> >>
> >> Can you send me an example of the line at the cursor when you are in
> >> the
> >> crate list, and one when you are in the music list? Let's see if we
> >> can
> >> find something static to trigger on.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Dennis Brown
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:33 AM
> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis Brown
> >>
> >>
> >> > You can download it from
> >> > www.scratchlive.net
> >> > The software is free, you have to pay for the hardware. If you do
> >> > download it, let me know and I will send you the JGF and JCF files
so
> > you
> >> > can see what is happening on the screen.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: Dennis Brown
> >> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 2:47 PM
> >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis Brown
> >> >
> >> > Where can I get a demo of this app so I can take a look.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Dennis Brown
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 10:07 PM
> >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis Brown
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > no, the class, type, and title do not change at all through out
> >> the
> >> > > application
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: Dennis Brown
> >> > > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:57 PM
> >> > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis
Brown
> >> > >
> >> > > You said:
> >> > > > take you to a particular crate or song by typing its name.
> >> > Sometimes
> >> > > > though, Jaws doesn't read the newly focused item. Should I
> > create
> >> > an
> >> > > >application KeyPressedEvent That would SayLine if I am in the
> > music
> >> > > > list after a key press. or Say Field if I am in the crate
> > list.
> >> > >
> >> > > If screenStabilizedEvent is something that fires when the new
> >> item
> >> > gains
> >> > > focus, try these steps:
> >> > > Can you determine if you are in the crate list or music list by
> >> > checking
> >> > > the
> >> > > class or type or title?
> >> > > If so, you may try something like the following:
> >> > >
> >> > > void function ScreenStabilizedEvent(handle hwndLastScreenWrite)
> >> > > ; Put your code in here like the following:
> >> > > If I'm in Crate list then
> >> > > SayField()
> >> > > ElIf I'm in music list Then
> >> > > SayLine()
> >> > > EndIf
> >> > > ; Now, call default...
> >> > > ScreenStabilizedEvent(hwndLastScreenWrite)
> >> > > endFunction
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > Dennis Brown
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > To: "JawsScriptsList" <JawsScripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:37 PM
> >> > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis
Brown
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hey Dennis,
> >> > > > I finally did reply to your message from a few weeks ago.,
but
> >> I
> >> > don't
> >> > > > think you saw it. Can you take a look at the string of
> >> messages
> >> > below
> >> > > and
> >> > > > give me your thoughts? The bottom line is that the only
event
> >> > > functions
> >> > > > that fire in Scratch Live are ScreenStabalizedEvent,
> > NewTextEvent,
> >> > and
> >> > > > SayHighlightedText.
> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > From: GianniP46
> >> > > > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:04 PM
> >> > > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Question
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ok Dennis, It has been a while, but I did what you said and
the
> > only
> >> > > one
> >> > > > that fires regularly is ScreenStabilizedEvent. None of the
> > other
> >> > ones
> >> > > > that you suggested work. And the KeyInterupt checkbox did
not
> > make
> >> > a
> >> > > > difference.
> >> > > > I know it took me a while to respond, but all of the original
> >> > messages
> >> > > are
> >> > > > below. Take a look to refresh your memory.
> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > From: Dennis Brown
> >> > > > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 4:20 PM
> >> > > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Question
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Yes, go into comfit manager's user settings and toggle that
> > puppy
> >> > off.
> >> > > > One thing I had to do when writing the MSN Live Messenger
> > script
> >> > set
> >> > > is
> >> > > > rely
> >> > > > on ValueChangedEvent, because the main focus never changed,
so
> >> > > > FocusChangedEvent never fired after the initial focus.
> >> > > > Put SayInteger(99) in ValueChangedEvent and see if it fires
> > when
> >> > > tabbing
> >> > > > through the application, and do SayInteger(77) in
> >> > > ActiveItemChangedEvent.
> >> > > > One thing to keep in mind is that the first event to fire is
> > not
> >> > > > FocusChangedEvent, but rather FocusChangedEventEx. That
puppy
> >> > fires
> >> > > > either
> >> > > > ActiveItemChangedEvent or FocusChangedEvent, or
MenuModeEvent,
> > or
> >> > > others,
> >> > > > depending on different variables.
> >> > > > Put a SayInteger(1) in that puppy and see if it fires.
> >> > > > Try ObjStateChangedEvent, and ScreenStabilizedEvent as well.
> >> > > > Lets build a list of possibilities by determining which
event
> > fires
> >> > > > consistently.
> >> > > > KeyPressedEvent may be the only option to do what you want,
> >> but
> >> > lets
> >> > > rule
> >> > > > out other possibilities first.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > Dennis Brown
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:49 PM
> >> > > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Question
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Hey Denis,
> >> > > > > I really don't think so, but how would I check? Is it
that
> > key
> >> > > > interrupt
> >> > > > > checkbox in Config manager? This is one of those pain in
> >> the
> >> > elbow
> >> > > > apps
> >> > > > > because there is only one window, window class, control
id,
> > and
> >> > so
> >> > > on.
> >> > > > > The only way I have managed to get the info I need is by
> > messing
> >> > > with
> >> > > > > NewtextEvent and SayHighlightedText. Nothing else seems
to
> > fire
> >> > at
> >> > > all
> >> > > > in
> >> > > > > this app. FocusChangedEvent doesn't even get fired when I
> > use
> >> > the
> >> > > > arrow
> >> > > > > keys or the tab key.
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: Dennis Brown
> >> > > > > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 2:59 PM
> >> > > > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Question
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Are you sure Jaws isn't reading the item, but your typing
> > steps
> >> > on
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > speech?
> >> > > > > For example, when you type, the typing interrupt flag
> > silences
> >> > Jaws
> >> > > > when
> >> > > > > a
> >> > > > > key is typed. Could your typing be silencing Jaws on the
> >> > > incremental
> >> > > > > search?
> >> > > > > Lets say I have a list named "Rock: Classic"
> >> > > > > and when I type the R, then the O, Jaws went to the item
> > with
> >> > the
> >> > > > press
> >> > > > > of
> >> > > > > the R, but my typing the O silenced Jaws trying to
announce
> > the
> >> > new
> >> > > > item.
> >> > > > > Could this be the problem? If so, then there is a
> >> different
> >> > > approach
> >> > > > > needed
> >> > > > > to fix your problem, one in which you can toggle typing
> >> > interrupt
> >> > > flag
> >> > > > > when
> >> > > > > in that list.
> >> > > > > You really want to stay away from an event-based solution
> > when
> >> > that
> >> > > > event
> >> > > > > is
> >> > > > > triggered so frequently in all situations, like
> > KeyPressedEvent,
> >> > or
> >> > > > > NewTextEvent, and restrict it to specific-based events
like
> >> > > > > ObjectChangedEvent, or ActiveItemChangedEvent, or
something
> > that
> >> > is
> >> > > > more
> >> > > > > specific and non-global.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Does this make sense before we proceed?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > Dennis Brown
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > To: "JawsScriptsList" <JawsScripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 2:20 PM
> >> > > > > Subject: [jawsscripts] KeyPressedEvent Question
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Ok, here we go again with another scratch Live
scripting
> >> > > question.
> >> > > > > > There are two views in scratch Live. One is like a
tree
> > view
> >> > > for
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > crates and sub crates. Crates are like playlists. The
> > other
> >> > > view
> >> > > > is
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > music list for the selected crate. Well, you can use
> >> your
> >> > > keyboard
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > > take you to a particular crate or song by typing its
> >> name.
> >> > > > Sometimes
> >> > > > > > though, Jaws doesn't read the newly focused item.
Should
> > I
> >> > > create
> >> > > > an
> >> > > > > > application KeyPressedEvent That would SayLine if I am
in
> > the
> >> > > music
> >> > > > > list
> >> > > > > > after a key press. or Say Field if I am in the crate
> >> list.
> >> > > > > > Now how can I check If any letter or number key was
> > pressed?
> >> > > > > > Thanks!
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Gian Pedulla GianniP46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > LETS! GO! METS!
> >> > > > > > __________
> >> > > > > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> > > > > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> > > > > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > __________
> >> > > > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> > > > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> > > > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> > ----
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >> > > > > Version: 8.5.364 / Virus Database: 270.12.67/2173 -
Release
> >> > Date:
> >> > > > > 06/13/09 05:53:00
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > __________
> >> > > > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> > > > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> > > > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > __________
> >> > > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> > > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > > View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> > > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> > ----
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >> > > > Version: 8.5.364 / Virus Database: 270.12.67/2173 - Release
> > Date:
> >> > > > 06/13/09 05:53:00
> >> > > >
> >> > > > __________
> >> > > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> > > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > > View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> > > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> > ------
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >> > > > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.23/2254 - Release
> > Date:
> >> > > 07/22/09
> >> > > > 05:59:00
> >> > > >
> >> > > > __________
> >> > > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> > > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > > View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> > > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > __________
> >> > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> > >
> >> > > View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> > ----
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >> > > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.44/2283 - Release
Date:
> >> > > 08/05/09 05:57:00
> >> > >
> >> > > __________
> >> > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> >> > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> > >
> >> > > View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > __________
> >> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> >
> >> > View the list's information and change your settings at
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> > ----
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >> > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.49/2294 - Release Date:
> >> > 08/10/09 06:10:00
> >> >
> >> > __________
> >> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> > http://jawsscripts.com
> >> >
> >> > View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> __________
> >> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> > http://jawsscripts.com
> >>
> >> View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> > ----
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.50/2296 - Release Date:
> > 08/11/09 06:10:00
> >>
> >> __________
> >> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
http://jawsscripts.com
> >>
> >> View the list's information and change your settings at
> >> http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
> >>
> >
> > __________
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http://jawsscripts.com
> >
> > View the list's information and change your settings at
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> >
> >
>
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>
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