[jawsscripts] Re: virtualizing Window reports no Text in Itunes.
- From: "Donald Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:17:01 -0400
I don't have any experience in this area, but since iTunes uses MSAA I
would look into functions to retrieve information from MSAA or objects. I
would probe around with BX or even the home row in these areas. I quickly
looked at the function list. Have you tried any of the following in
addition to the normal functions for getting text from windows?:
MSAAGetDialogStaticText ()
GetObjectValue (True, 0)
Remember if the text is contained as a child of the window you are
examining, you might need to retrieve all inclusive text such as:
GetWindowTextEx (hWnd, False, True, False)
Sorry if this is way off. I am not familiar with your problem or iTunes.
Don Marang
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:48 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] virtualizing Window reports no Text in Itunes.
> nope, no joy dennis. still reports "no text," even after jaws cursor
> activation. very odd.
>
> any further hints to offer anyone?
> Brian h?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis Brown" <DennisTBrown@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:21 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis Brown
>
>
>> What if you activate the jaws cursor prior to virtualizing the window?
> Does
>> that get it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dennis Brown
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:24 PM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis Brown
>>
>>
>> > hmmm. ITunes does that as well. i.e. virtualizing window reports this
> same
>> > "no text" phenominon. anyone got any ideas why this would be though?
> when
>> > there is clearly text in the window that the jaws cursor can read?
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 5:41 AM
>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis Brown
>> >
>> >
>> >> Dennis,
>> >> I tried to virtualized the window, but it said that the window
>> >> contains
>> >> no
>> > text.
>> >> The only things that are constant are graphics in the crate list and
> the
>> > track list.
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: Dennis Brown
>> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:12 AM
>> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis Brown
>> >>
>> >> Can you send me an example of the line at the cursor when you are in
>> >> the
>> >> crate list, and one when you are in the music list? Let's see if we
>> >> can
>> >> find something static to trigger on.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Dennis Brown
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:33 AM
>> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis Brown
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > You can download it from
>> >> > www.scratchlive.net
>> >> > The software is free, you have to pay for the hardware. If you do
>> >> > download it, let me know and I will send you the JGF and JCF files
> so
>> > you
>> >> > can see what is happening on the screen.
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: Dennis Brown
>> >> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 2:47 PM
>> >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis Brown
>> >> >
>> >> > Where can I get a demo of this app so I can take a look.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Dennis Brown
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 10:07 PM
>> >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis Brown
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > > no, the class, type, and title do not change at all through out
>> >> the
>> >> > > application
>> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > From: Dennis Brown
>> >> > > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:57 PM
>> >> > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis
> Brown
>> >> > >
>> >> > > You said:
>> >> > > > take you to a particular crate or song by typing its name.
>> >> > Sometimes
>> >> > > > though, Jaws doesn't read the newly focused item. Should I
>> > create
>> >> > an
>> >> > > >application KeyPressedEvent That would SayLine if I am in
>> >> the
>> > music
>> >> > > > list after a key press. or Say Field if I am in the crate
>> > list.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > If screenStabilizedEvent is something that fires when the new
>> >> item
>> >> > gains
>> >> > > focus, try these steps:
>> >> > > Can you determine if you are in the crate list or music list
>> >> by
>> >> > checking
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > class or type or title?
>> >> > > If so, you may try something like the following:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > void function ScreenStabilizedEvent(handle
>> >> hwndLastScreenWrite)
>> >> > > ; Put your code in here like the following:
>> >> > > If I'm in Crate list then
>> >> > > SayField()
>> >> > > ElIf I'm in music list Then
>> >> > > SayLine()
>> >> > > EndIf
>> >> > > ; Now, call default...
>> >> > > ScreenStabilizedEvent(hwndLastScreenWrite)
>> >> > > endFunction
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks,
>> >> > > Dennis Brown
>> >> > >
>> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > > To: "JawsScriptsList" <JawsScripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:37 PM
>> >> > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Attention Dennis
> Brown
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Hey Dennis,
>> >> > > > I finally did reply to your message from a few weeks ago.,
> but
>> >> I
>> >> > don't
>> >> > > > think you saw it. Can you take a look at the string of
>> >> messages
>> >> > below
>> >> > > and
>> >> > > > give me your thoughts? The bottom line is that the only
> event
>> >> > > functions
>> >> > > > that fire in Scratch Live are ScreenStabalizedEvent,
>> > NewTextEvent,
>> >> > and
>> >> > > > SayHighlightedText.
>> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > > From: GianniP46
>> >> > > > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:04 PM
>> >> > > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Question
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Ok Dennis, It has been a while, but I did what you said and
> the
>> > only
>> >> > > one
>> >> > > > that fires regularly is ScreenStabilizedEvent. None of the
>> > other
>> >> > ones
>> >> > > > that you suggested work. And the KeyInterupt checkbox did
> not
>> > make
>> >> > a
>> >> > > > difference.
>> >> > > > I know it took me a while to respond, but all of the
>> >> original
>> >> > messages
>> >> > > are
>> >> > > > below. Take a look to refresh your memory.
>> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > > From: Dennis Brown
>> >> > > > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > > > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 4:20 PM
>> >> > > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Question
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Yes, go into comfit manager's user settings and toggle that
>> > puppy
>> >> > off.
>> >> > > > One thing I had to do when writing the MSN Live Messenger
>> > script
>> >> > set
>> >> > > is
>> >> > > > rely
>> >> > > > on ValueChangedEvent, because the main focus never changed,
> so
>> >> > > > FocusChangedEvent never fired after the initial focus.
>> >> > > > Put SayInteger(99) in ValueChangedEvent and see if it fires
>> > when
>> >> > > tabbing
>> >> > > > through the application, and do SayInteger(77) in
>> >> > > ActiveItemChangedEvent.
>> >> > > > One thing to keep in mind is that the first event to fire
>> >> is
>> > not
>> >> > > > FocusChangedEvent, but rather FocusChangedEventEx. That
> puppy
>> >> > fires
>> >> > > > either
>> >> > > > ActiveItemChangedEvent or FocusChangedEvent, or
> MenuModeEvent,
>> > or
>> >> > > others,
>> >> > > > depending on different variables.
>> >> > > > Put a SayInteger(1) in that puppy and see if it fires.
>> >> > > > Try ObjStateChangedEvent, and ScreenStabilizedEvent as
>> >> well.
>> >> > > > Lets build a list of possibilities by determining which
> event
>> > fires
>> >> > > > consistently.
>> >> > > > KeyPressedEvent may be the only option to do what you want,
>> >> but
>> >> > lets
>> >> > > rule
>> >> > > > out other possibilities first.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Thanks,
>> >> > > > Dennis Brown
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > > From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > > > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > > > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:49 PM
>> >> > > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Question
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > Hey Denis,
>> >> > > > > I really don't think so, but how would I check? Is it
> that
>> > key
>> >> > > > interrupt
>> >> > > > > checkbox in Config manager? This is one of those pain in
>> >> the
>> >> > elbow
>> >> > > > apps
>> >> > > > > because there is only one window, window class, control
> id,
>> > and
>> >> > so
>> >> > > on.
>> >> > > > > The only way I have managed to get the info I need is by
>> > messing
>> >> > > with
>> >> > > > > NewtextEvent and SayHighlightedText. Nothing else seems
> to
>> > fire
>> >> > at
>> >> > > all
>> >> > > > in
>> >> > > > > this app. FocusChangedEvent doesn't even get fired when
>> >> I
>> > use
>> >> > the
>> >> > > > arrow
>> >> > > > > keys or the tab key.
>> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > > > From: Dennis Brown
>> >> > > > > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 2:59 PM
>> >> > > > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: KeyPressedEvent Question
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Are you sure Jaws isn't reading the item, but your
>> >> typing
>> > steps
>> >> > on
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > > > speech?
>> >> > > > > For example, when you type, the typing interrupt flag
>> > silences
>> >> > Jaws
>> >> > > > when
>> >> > > > > a
>> >> > > > > key is typed. Could your typing be silencing Jaws on
>> >> the
>> >> > > incremental
>> >> > > > > search?
>> >> > > > > Lets say I have a list named "Rock: Classic"
>> >> > > > > and when I type the R, then the O, Jaws went to the item
>> > with
>> >> > the
>> >> > > > press
>> >> > > > > of
>> >> > > > > the R, but my typing the O silenced Jaws trying to
> announce
>> > the
>> >> > new
>> >> > > > item.
>> >> > > > > Could this be the problem? If so, then there is a
>> >> different
>> >> > > approach
>> >> > > > > needed
>> >> > > > > to fix your problem, one in which you can toggle typing
>> >> > interrupt
>> >> > > flag
>> >> > > > > when
>> >> > > > > in that list.
>> >> > > > > You really want to stay away from an event-based
>> >> solution
>> > when
>> >> > that
>> >> > > > event
>> >> > > > > is
>> >> > > > > triggered so frequently in all situations, like
>> > KeyPressedEvent,
>> >> > or
>> >> > > > > NewTextEvent, and restrict it to specific-based events
> like
>> >> > > > > ObjectChangedEvent, or ActiveItemChangedEvent, or
> something
>> > that
>> >> > is
>> >> > > > more
>> >> > > > > specific and non-global.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Does this make sense before we proceed?
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Thanks,
>> >> > > > > Dennis Brown
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > > > From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > > > > To: "JawsScriptsList" <JawsScripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 2:20 PM
>> >> > > > > Subject: [jawsscripts] KeyPressedEvent Question
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > Ok, here we go again with another scratch Live
> scripting
>> >> > > question.
>> >> > > > > > There are two views in scratch Live. One is like a
> tree
>> > view
>> >> > > for
>> >> > > > the
>> >> > > > > > crates and sub crates. Crates are like playlists.
>> >> The
>> > other
>> >> > > view
>> >> > > > is
>> >> > > > > the
>> >> > > > > > music list for the selected crate. Well, you can use
>> >> your
>> >> > > keyboard
>> >> > > > to
>> >> > > > > > take you to a particular crate or song by typing its
>> >> name.
>> >> > > > Sometimes
>> >> > > > > > though, Jaws doesn't read the newly focused item.
> Should
>> > I
>> >> > > create
>> >> > > > an
>> >> > > > > > application KeyPressedEvent That would SayLine if I am
> in
>> > the
>> >> > > music
>> >> > > > > list
>> >> > > > > > after a key press. or Say Field if I am in the crate
>> >> list.
>> >> > > > > > Now how can I check If any letter or number key was
>> > pressed?
>> >> > > > > > Thanks!
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > Gian Pedulla GianniP46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > LETS! GO! METS!
>> >> > > > > > __________
>> >> > > > > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>> >> > > > > http://jawsscripts.com
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > View the list's information and change your settings
>> >> at
>> >> > > > > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > __________
>> >> > > > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>> >> > > > http://jawsscripts.com
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > View the list's information and change your settings at
>> >> > > > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >
>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
>> > ----
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> >> > > > > Version: 8.5.364 / Virus Database: 270.12.67/2173 -
> Release
>> >> > Date:
>> >> > > > > 06/13/09 05:53:00
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > __________
>> >> > > > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>> >> > > > http://jawsscripts.com
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > View the list's information and change your settings at
>> >> > > > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > __________
>> >> > > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>> >> > > http://jawsscripts.com
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > View the list's information and change your settings at
>> >> > > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >
>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
>> > ----
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> >> > > > Version: 8.5.364 / Virus Database: 270.12.67/2173 - Release
>> > Date:
>> >> > > > 06/13/09 05:53:00
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > __________
>> >> > > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>> >> > > http://jawsscripts.com
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > View the list's information and change your settings at
>> >> > > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >
>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
>> > ------
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> >> > > > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.23/2254 - Release
>> > Date:
>> >> > > 07/22/09
>> >> > > > 05:59:00
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > __________
>> >> > > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>> >> > > http://jawsscripts.com
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > View the list's information and change your settings at
>> >> > > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > __________
>> >> > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>> >> > http://jawsscripts.com
>> >> > >
>> >> > > View the list's information and change your settings at
>> >> > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >
>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
>> > ----
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> >> > > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.44/2283 - Release
> Date:
>> >> > > 08/05/09 05:57:00
>> >> > >
>> >> > > __________
>> >> > > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>> >> > http://jawsscripts.com
>> >> > >
>> >> > > View the list's information and change your settings at
>> >> > > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > __________
>> >> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>> > http://jawsscripts.com
>> >> >
>> >> > View the list's information and change your settings at
>> >> > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
>> > ----
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> >> > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.49/2294 - Release Date:
>> >> > 08/10/09 06:10:00
>> >> >
>> >> > __________
>> >> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>> > http://jawsscripts.com
>> >> >
>> >> > View the list's information and change your settings at
>> >> > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> __________
>> >> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
>> > http://jawsscripts.com
>> >>
>> >> View the list's information and change your settings at
>> >> http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
>> > ----
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> >> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.50/2296 - Release Date:
>> > 08/11/09 06:10:00
>> >>
>> >> __________
>> >> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> http://jawsscripts.com
>> >>
>> >> View the list's information and change your settings at
>> >> http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>> >>
>> >
>> > __________
>> > Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository
> http://jawsscripts.com
>> >
>> > View the list's information and change your settings at
>> > http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>> >
>> >
>>
>> __________
>> Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com
>>
>> View the list's information and change your settings at
>> http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>>
>
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>
> View the list's information and change your settings at
> http://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>
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