All,
I went and sought an outside option last evening. I ask Dr. Clint Boal to
weight in. He is considered by many to be a raptor authority. Copied below
is his input. Thanks guys! Great discussion and great find by Joe!
On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 5:52 AM Katheryn Watson <watsonkatheryn@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
The face in the original pictures is all wrong for a black hawk. I agreeDrew T. Harvey
with the original identification of a broad winged hawk.
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On Apr 4, 2019, at 11:47 PM, WILLIAM WENTHE <wwenthe@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
For what my two cents is worth, Joe, I think the key is the silhouette in
flight. The Black Hawk's wings are so broad that they radically change the
common hawk silhouette. The photo of of a Broadwing that Drew provided,
despite the name "broad winged" hawk, is nothing like the silhouette of a
Black Hawk. My Sibley shows a pretty good version of that flight
silhouette.
Bill Wenthe
On Thursday, April 4, 2019, 9:52:32 PM CDT, Robert C. Lee <
robertclee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Good discussion. FYI, we do have C Black Hawk sightings including one at
Clapp just a very few years ago. Hung around a couple weeks in late summer
iirc. Blacks are significantly larger than Broads but I have no
perspective. Broads have pale ventral secondaries so a flight pic would
help. Let's hear some more.
On Apr 4, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Drew Harvey <drwharvey419@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Broad-winged Hawk reporting sun Lubbock in April via ebird. See attached
image.
<IMG_4193.jpg>
Drew
On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:57 PM Drew Harvey <drwharvey419@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Danny,
Disagree. Broad-winged is more likely then any of the other two. Dark
morph broadwinged in flight below. Large white tailed band with white tail
tips. Sharp curve beak like a coopers/Swainson’s Hawk gives this away.
Common black hawks have more radtailed like beaks.
<IMG_4192.jpg>
Drew
On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:40 PM <whisp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I agree . Common bh.
Hey Joe, I think that is definitely a Common-black hawk!close.
Dont see Broad-wing being a possibility. Zoned-tailed hawk would be
The tail pattern is the clinching thing to me. Perfect match. Z-t hawkHawk
more bands and without the white tip. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung
Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Joe Cochran
<jcochran2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 4/4/19 2:26 PM (GMT-06:00) To:
leasbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [leasbirds] Dark Morph Broad-winged
I was at Clapp Park on the path between the Playas and saw this Buteo.the
Based on the tail pattern is could be a Common Black-Hawk but it lacks
white patch behind the bill. It seemed to be about the same size as a
Cooper’s Hawk – maybe a little larger. The tail pattern in flight
seemed to match a Broad-winged but I didn’t get a picture of that. So,
I’m leaning toward Dark Morph Broad-winged Hawk. Any thoughts?
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