John Shutt wrote: > The ATSC has codified E-VSB in it's specifications, but > the FCC has yet to adopt those specifications into the > rules. > > FWIW, all Zenith VSB demodulator chips and receivers > ever sold have the ability to receive and decode 16-VSB, > 4T-VSB, and 2T-VSB in addition to the usual 8T-VSB. > > That is not the same as E-VSB or A-VSB, but 4T and 2T > was once suggested by Zenith as alternate transmission > modes that lowered the C/N requirements even more, but > were never adopted by the ATSC. AFAIK LG/Zenith chipsets > still contain these legacy modulation modes. Very interesting. I knew that Zenith had proposed the simpler constellations, but I didn't know they were supporting them. Annex D Section 5.5.2.3 of A/53E shows a lot of "reserved" settings for the 24 bits assigned to VSB Mode in the training segment, and that's probably what they were meant to be used for. (Only 8T-VSB and 16-VSB are used, although the document says 8-VSB rather than 8T-VSB.) But the holy grail is the Shannon limit. The closer you get to that, IMO, the more interesting it is. 2T-VSB or 4T-VSB, with no improvement in training or FEC, doesn't get you any closer to the Shannon limit. So I'm all for a more interesting approach (but not the endless wait!). Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.