[opendtv] Re: Cisco claiming patents on TCP - Goodbye Free NetworkStacks, Hello Cisco Royalties.
- From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:06:32 -0400
Kon Wilms wrote:
I love it - collaborate on the IETF draft, then underhandedly patent it.
Funny that Juniper, Wind River, QNX and others also contributed...
It is a problem common to most all standards bodies these days. They
are increasingly coopted by IP interests. This decreases the value of
the standards to the public at large but may (or not) increase the
value of the standards for those controlling members.
No one ever said that standards were for the common good. It would
just be nice if they were. I have no idea how to solve this problem.
Anyone?
- Tom
> "Looks like cisco is trying to bend everyone over a barrel again like they
> did for VRRP - except now with TCP, by hijacking the new IETF process to
> work on TCP issues. Good way to ensure that everyone can't implement
> compatible standards, since free software implementors will not be able to
> implement this. When will people learn that RAND == NO FREE SOFTWARE. Of
> course, for all we know the applied patents are for Cat Detector vans, so
> you have no idea if this is even relevant."
>
> The complete statement from Cisco reads:
>
> ---
> Title: Cisco's Statement about IPR Claimed in draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure
> Received: April 26, 2004
> From: Robert Barr
>
> Cisco is the owner of one or more pending patent applications relating to
> the subject matter of "Transmission Control Protocol security
> considerations" . If technology in this
> document is included in a standard adopted by IETF and any claims of any
> Cisco patents are necessary for practicing the standard, any party will be
> able to obtain a license from Cisco to use any such patent claims under
> reasonable, non-discriminatory terms, with reciprocity, to implement and
> fully comply with the standard.
>
> For information contact:
>
> Robert Barr
> Worldwide Patent Counsel
> Cisco Systems
> 408-525-9706
> ---
>
> An additional write up with responses from Theo de Raadt (of OpenBSD fame)
> can be found at at KernelTrap here: http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3085
>
> The IETF draft is here:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure-00.txt
>
> I love it - collaborate on the IETF draft, then underhandedly patent it.
> Funny that Juniper, Wind River, QNX and others also contributed...
>
> Cheers
> Kon
>
>
>
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