My old one didn't but I thought the newer Tivo's all would at least accept an Ethernet broadband connection now. Of course Tivo used to make all their money selling the guide service at $10-15 / month and I'm not sure they can get away with that anymore anyway, HD or no. - Tom Manfredi, Albert E wrote: > Tom Barry wrote: > > >>You seem to be having quite a good time at this. ;-) >> >>Some of us kidded you forever for not getting an ATSC >>receiver and now suddenly you have two of them. > > > :) > > You know what? This is basically desperation. I figured > last year that by this past Christmas season, at the > latest, 4th/5th gen boxes would be available, and the > prices down to about $130. I was basically so aggravated > that this wasn't happening, even though by all rights it > should have happened, that I just decided to give it a > shot with the best of what was available. > > Another weird thing I discovered. There's a Humax ATSC > TiVo PVR and a Humax TiVo DVD recorder out there that > still require a phone connection. > > http://www.humaxusa.com/Product_frames.html > > In principle, that phone connection should not be > necessary anymore. The PSIP guide should be enough. That > too aggravates me. Perhaps this is why plain vanilla > STBs have such rudimentary timers (and Humax HFA-100s > have no timer at all). Once again, trying to force > people into something complicated when incredibly simple > solutions exist. Too bad people get sucked in. > > But yes, I am having a great time playing with this > stuff. > > Bert > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.