[opendtv] Re: EETimes.com - DVB ponders next-gen terrestrial DTV standard
- From: Bob Miller <bob@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:33:20 -0500
Albert Manfredi wrote:
>Bob Miller wrote:
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>>Don't put words in my mouth about what I have said about
>>people buying modulation or robustness. We all know what
>>people buy and what they don't. They are not buying 8-VSB.
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>And you did it again! Unbelievable.
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No Al, "they are not buy 8-VSB", with the implication that they are
buying content is what I am saying there. Of course they are not buying
8-VSB because it will not supply them the content reliably but they do
not have to have any knowledge about the modulation to do so. Everything
comes down to twisted semantics in these conversations for some reason.
>It's not 8-VSB that people aren't buying. It is what is offered as FOTA DTT
>in the US, perhaps, that doesn't inspire the masses. Don't you see the
>difference? (This will change, as it did in Germany, when analog goes dark.
>But one would have preferred the change in attitudes to be caused by
>something more positive.)
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What is being offered in the US OTA? More HD than ever before. Inspired
no. HD was supposed to be the big draw. The reason to go digital.
Early adopters of OTA DTV went there for one thing, HD. They can't wait
in many cases to get to cable or satellite for the same content and drop
OTA ASAP. A big ongoing topic on AVSForum, yes I can still read and post
to AVSForum, is when will local stations be on cable or satellite in HD.
You could argue that 8-VSB reception is driving people away from OTA. In
fact I do argue that.
>>One thing that baffles me is that broadcasters are not
>>pushing for MPEG4.
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>It only baffles you because you distort the importance of AVC. If
>broadcasters haven't even figured out how to put together an interesting mix
>of multicasts, what makes you think they even care, at this point, about
>more compression efficiency. As you yourself said, all they worry about is
>must-carry over cable. AVC is completely secondary at this point. First they
>need to care enough to set the correct time on their DTT transmitters, for
>example.
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No again for arguments sake you drop part of what I said and then make
an invalid point. I said they are totally immersed in multicast must
carry. That is different from must carry since it involves more
programming and for which they should want to maximize their capacity.
AVC is very important but not until they have multicast must carry sewn
up. Until then they will keep a low profile IMO on all multicasting
including the doing much of. Case in point their minimal investment
quietly in USDTV just enough to keep it alive. So I don't think you can
judge what they have "figured out" as to their multicast mix till then.
What baffles me is they are very active in pushing for multicast must
carry in DC but not at the same time pushing for AVC. I suppose that it
is a one thing at a time deal. After all pushing for AVC is more likely
to be seen as a further delaying tactic at this point. Better to wait
till their competition is using it to big time and the digital
transition is dissolving into chaos around May of 2009.
Then the double whammy of bad receivers and the need for MPEG4 will
offer the chance to change everything and, yes, delay some more.
Bob Miller
Bob Miller
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