See comments below At 05:04 PM 2/13/2006 -0800, you wrote: >Bert wrote: >>As Doug says, such low power repeaters can also be used >>with 8-VSB, as shown in Ottawa, but you need decent >>receivers which accept pre-echo. They exist. Just not on >>store shelves. Why not on store shelves? > >The ATSC A/111 standard and the companion A/110A Recommended Practice, >address the uses of 8VSB SFNs and Repeaters. One major station group is >currently testing this concept in a relatively large market but findings are >yet to be published. As you say, this requires 5th Gen type receiver >hardware to be successful, which seemingly can only be obtained thru the >purchase of a new DTV set. So, every ATSC receiver sold prior to 5th generation is non-functional? As I recall, while I was personally being attacked by organizations supporting 8VSB, one of the objections to switching to a COFDM based system was that such a switch would disenfranchise "all" (all 1000 of them I guess) of the previously sold ATSC receivers. So the weakness of the ATSC 8VSB design requires a 5th generation receiver, that no one is selling yet. Hmmm. Is the scent of a class action lawsuit in the wind to compensate all of the consumers of ATSC receivers that are 4th generation or older? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.