[opendtv] Re: Fwd: Adobe Crunches Big Data for Economic Insights
- From: Craig Birkmaier <brewmastercraig@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 09:03:18 -0400
On Mar 17, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Manfredi, Albert E <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Craig Birkmaier wrote:
Craig absolutely does not know when to stop arguing.
So tell us, Craig, does Adobe need deep packet inspection to acquire these
data? That was your claim, right? Here's your question:
So Bert, how does Adobe get all of this data?
Seems like a pretty deep subject to me..
That was just the bait I put out there Bert. You swallowed it hook, line, and
sinker.
YOU inferred that I was claiming Adobe is using DPI. As you could see from my
response the correct answer was completely different. I would assume they do
not use DPI, but rather run analytic apps on all of the servers operated by
companies they contract with to collect usage data.
Or was that just some different discussion, on something totally unrelated to
DPI?
It was an effort to draw you out to talk about the realities of modern Internet
business models. DPI is one of many techniques being used for data mining. So
yes these things are related.
As I said in the other thread, most applications of DPI are legitimate and
beneficial. There is always potential for abuse with any technology.
There is very little value in reading people's e-mails. WAAAAAY too
much data to process
Oh, that's rich. I wonder how far that argument would get, applied to tapping
your telephone.
All the way to the judge who would need to authorize the warrant to tap my
phone.
In a law enforcement agency believes I am doing something illegal they can get
that warrant.
The government, through the NSA decided there was value in secretly collecting
EVERYONE'S Phone metadata; in theory a FISA warrant was required to look at
this data. But that's of little comfort given the reality that the data was on
government servers, many of which have been hacked or abused for political
purposes.
After Snowden exposed this, the law was changed and now the phone companies are
required to hold this data and a warrant is required to gain access for law
enforcement and counter terrorism. Of course the phone company servers can be
hacked too.
The reality is that it requires massive compute power to gain meaningful
information from this mountain of data unless you know what you are looking
for. It can be quite useful AFTER something bad happens, as was the case in San
Bernadino, but of little use if the agencies trying to protect us do not know
what to look at.
The Boston bombers provide a great case study. These guys were KNOWN to be
potential bad guys, yet the government either ignored the threat, or simply had
no clue what they were doing. Either way, the result was disastrous.
Next time think before you bite. I'm growing tired of reeling you in and
throwing you back.
Regards
Craig
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