Craig: "Then again, we may be too critical. The AVERAGE CONSUMER probably does not care, or even see some of this crap." I think the consumer is noticing, but there isn't any feedback to let the producers know. I have heard from several non-technical friends that they notice artifacts (they use different terms) in some of the Olympic coverage. And another just recently changed from cable to DBS and says he was surprised that video could look that much better. Speaking of the Olympic coverage and artifacts, have you watched water polo? The ball actually disappears. Dan