Craig Birkmaier wrote: > Yup. I am not saying I should be prevented from subscribing to the > Comcast Xfinity TV Go app. That is between Comcast and the content > owners that are licensing the content that Comcast hosts as part > of the Xfinity service. More likely, the obstacle is only between the MVPDs themselves. The content owners should have no problem licensing the content to anyone who will pay them what they ask, per subscriber. But the MVPDs don't like the extra competition. They objected loudly to Verizon FiOS, remember? Why would they not bitch even louder against totally open season like this? > Let's skip forward a few years to the point in time where the > facilities based linear streaming infrastructure of the local > monopoly pipes is no longer needed. > Can Bert and I at least agree that this will happen, It already has happened, Craig, and I've stated this on **many** occasions. Else, TVE couldn't exist. Why are you asking this again? If there are bottlenecks created when the increased demand occurs, they can be resolved in relatively short order, on a case by case basis. > This article also tells us how Netflix was transitioning the > infrastructure to reach subscribers, by deploying its own CDN > network, and deploying edge servers. Exactly, and willing to pay for it. We already discussed this too! So again, these are fine adjustments, made on a case by case basis, much like deploying new cell towers as needed for cell phone service, on a case by case basis. If the companies that require a widely distributed set of servers agrees to fund these, as Netflix did, then that takes a big burden off the backs of the company that wires your house up. We have been over all of this very many times, Craig. > So how does this relate to Bert's question about buying TV > Everywhere service from Comcast. > > The simple answer is that Comcast would need to locate an > edge server at my Cox head end if the traffic overwhelmed a > peering interconnection service. Hey Craig, Comcast ALREADY has to make its TVE available over Cox or other ISP nets, right? That's what TVE means. No matter where you are, you can get your home MVPD's TVE content. The *only* problem is that if your street address happens to be a Cox street address, you can only deal with Cox. A totally anachronistic and artificial added-on constraint. > Unfortunately, the FCC has just injected itself into this > thorny mess. We will now have a government regulator in > the middle of all of these interconnection issues, Explain this concern, please. The FCC is simply mandating that Cox, or Comcast or whoever, cannot block or throttle content being sent over the broadband slice of bandwidth you subscribe to. The competitive market place **DOES NOT WORK** in cases of physically mandatory local monopolies, or in cases of clear conflict of interest. This broadband service has aspects of BOTH: clear conflict of interest and almost total lack of credibly viable competition. > History tells us that once they get their nose under the > tent it won't take long for the government to regulate and tax it. Yes, that is a definite threat. A non-neutral Internet, caused by broadband being the sole province now of cable TV companies, companies with a long history of non-neutral behavior, is an even more imminent threat. > Does Amazon ship everything from one central warehouse Bert? Thanks for making my point, Craig! Amazon has no problem with billing people from anywhere in the world, and similarly, Comcast TVE packages can be made available to anyone in the world (or certainly within the US). The fact that Amazon may have warehouses located in many places, and Comcast may have video servers distributed throughout the country, is totally irrelevant. You suggested that billing was a problem. I say bull. > You can say whatever you want Bert. If you really believe > this, then the Millennials must be pretty stupid. Instead > of paying big buck for a fat MVPD bundle that sends money > to ESPN, even if you don't want ESPN, you can spend $20 > for a slim bundle, and send $14 to other networks you don't > watch. Let me repeat this more slowly, then, Craig. Sling TV is for sports fans. Instead of paying a huge monthly fee primarily for watching ESPN, they can now get ESPN by paying $20. Surely, this is not difficult to grasp. As to your other point about how nice it is to have a big fat bundle, DO NOT FORGET that you were the one who couldn't grasp that concept, back in the days when the unwalled Internet was still unable to offer MVPD monopolies any competition. Another example of your circular arguments. So once again, when the TV distribution medium is a natural monopoly and gatekeeper, a one-way passively split broadcast network, it makes total sense for them to want to rein in their administrative fees, and offer a small set of big bundles. With the two-way Internet, this approach BECOMES UNCOMPETITIVE! > OK Mr. science, what is the number? Already told you, more than once, so no, Craig. You have all the information you need, from that Ericsson paper. So now, to make the point stick, you need to do the math and get the answer yourself. And oh by the way, I also asked you whether those numbers pertain to a 30' high receive antenna placement, or whether they pertain to hand-held service. It's also in that paper. All things you should study, so the points will hopefully stick. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.