Jeroen, Did you get a chance to see the 'HD' broadcasts of the World Cup as distributed on Dutch cable? NOB Cross Media used an Axon box to do field de-interlacing from the 1080i@25 signal provided bij Host Broadcasting Services to 720P@50 , which was then compressed by an MPEG 4 AVC encoder (not sure of the brand). The result met with little enthousiasme. Sounds like the Let it Wave folks from France are doing something simillar (as you say there is no framerate adapation going from 25 to 50 frames a second). Donald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeroen Stessen" <jeroen.stessen@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 5:47 PM Subject: [opendtv] I've seen a demo from LetItWave Hello, This week we've had a private demo from the French company LetItWave: http://www.letitwave.com/ (Thanks to Olivier Houot for the tip !) They use the theory of bandlets for de-interlacing, resolution enhancement, and noise and artefact reduction. We have seen some simulated video, and also a real-time demo from an FPGA on a PCI-card. I was much impressed ! Their guy, Alban D'Halluin (director, HDTV marketing) was not at all shy to answer our tricky questions. He seemed honest and knowledgable. They are doing studio-quality conversion from 576@50i (a.k.a. PAL) to 720@50p (a.k.a. Euro-HD), but they are not limited to these standards. (But they do no frame rate conversion, and do not use motion vectors.) 80% of the quality is determined by the de-interlacer, and theirs is yet another variant of the motion-adaptive (not motion-compensated) method. In the simulations it succeeded on some very critical test sequences. Their equipment has been used for HDTV broadcasting from the tennis championship at Roland Garros, because only the center court had real HD cameras. Only the experts could tell the difference between the real 720p and the upconverted video. And this on a mere PCI card. There have been demos at the NAB, and there will be new and improved demos at the coming IBC. Highly recommended. I seemed to understand that Yves Faroudja has an advisory function or something to them. I thought that he wanted no more of interlace ? Oh, and Prin: you guys should worry, they do outperform you a little on de-interlacing, and probably for a fraction of the cost... PS: Philips Applied Technologies Eindhoven wants to hire 1-2 designers for various video signal processing jobs. Let me know if any of you are interested. Greetings, -- Jeroen +-------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | From: Jeroen H. Stessen | E-mail: Jeroen.Stessen@xxxxxxxxxxx | | Building: SFJ-5.22 Eindhoven | Deptmt.: Philips Applied Technologies | | Phone: ++31.40.2732739 | Visiting & mail address: Glaslaan 2 | | Mobile: ++31.6.44680021 | NL 5616 LW Eindhoven, the Netherlands | | Skype: callto:jeroen.stessen | Website: http://www.apptech.philips.com/ | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.