You are missing much. I don't see how you can use a different form of modulation within a single 6 Mhz channel and be backwards-compatible. Indeed, your friend Richard Bogner was told in a face-to-face meeting with the FCC this week that he cannot use FM modulation in the same channel as 8-VSB because no interference studies have been made. (Richard told me this in a series of private email messages, which I summarized in a message this week on my PSIP list.) Also, I don't see how you could save bits by transmitting black and white images, since chroma and luma are needed to make pictures, even if the source is black and white. The chroma formats permitted by MPEG-2 are 4:2:0, 4:2:2 and 4:4:4. They are component: A matrix, block or single sample from one of the three matrices (luminance and two chrominance) that make up a picture. I note that one of the m/p/h proposals is from Qualcomm, which has spent mightily - perhaps a billion dollars - on the MediaFlo demo infrastructure in the U.S. It would be the height of "creative destruction" if their proposal to the ATSC resulted in destroying that infrastructure or wasn't compatible with it, nor wasn't backwards compatible with 8-VSB. I think that trying to integrate a single-carrier system and a multiple-carrier system into the same 6-Mhz channel is "mightily difficult" if not simply impossible. Perhaps you haven't thought much about it. I also note the news today that Google has decided to bid in the next auction round. Perhaps that is behind your newly-resurected interest in bashing 8-VSB and the parties that have to make a business around it? Hope this helps John Willkie _____ De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Bob Miller Enviado el: Friday, November 30, 2007 6:50 PM Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: [opendtv] Re: New Thread: What becomes of Legacy Analog Equipment Sort of lets change the modulation and say we didn't by letting a completely different modulation use all but a small part of the 6 MHz? Or am I missing something? Maybe it wasn't a joke when I was talking about doing an SD weather type information channel in black and white to minimize bits used for SD and use the rest with what, DTMB or some clone with a different name to disguise it and MPEG3? Bob Miller