[opendtv] Re: Next-Gen TV Standard: DVB With A Twist? | TVNewsCheck.com
- From: Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 17:43:36 -0400
What is the likelihood that device manufacturers would support both LTE and
DVBT2 in smartphones and tablets?
Looks like the same old, same old. The usual characters are trying to entrench
their IP by keeping the broadcast standard "proprietary." The death march to
the digital cliff continues...
Regards
Craig
On Aug 30, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Mike Tsinberg <Mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> We could have COFDM right from the beginning of ATSC.
>
> Best Regards,
> Mike Tsinberg
> http://keydigital.com
>
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 9:50 PM, "Mark Aitken" <MAitken@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/70091/nextgen-tv-standard-dvb-with-a-twist/page/1
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>> Tech Sportlight
>> Next-Gen TV Standard: DVB With A Twist?
>> By Andrew Dodson
>> TVNewsCheck, August 29, 2013 11:26 AM EDT
>> Most of the 10 proposals for a next-generation TV standard submitted to the
>> Advanced Television Systems Committee last week are based on the DVB-T2, the
>> European broadcast standard.
>> The proposals, representing the work on 18 organizations and one individual,
>> are for the standard's "physical layer" — the component that deals with the
>> actual over-the-air transmission.
>> Detailed versions of the proposals are due Sept. 27.
>> The ATSC's goal is to develop a standard that generates a signal robust
>> enough to be received on smartphones and tablets and on TV sets with indoor
>> antennas virtually anywhere. The ATSC also wants the standard to give
>> broadcasters a platform to implement advanced services like 4K, 3D and
>> interactivity.
>> ATSC is on a timetable to adopt a final standard by 2016. It would take
>> several years after that to implement.
>> Organizations that submitted a proposal included television manufacturers,
>> broadcast equipment manufacturers, international research groups, one
>> individual and one broadcaster, Sinclair Broadcast Group.
>> “I’m very pleased with all of the responses,” says Mark Richer, president of
>> ATSC. “There’s a great range of companies, a lot of support, and it’s always
>> really interesting to see which companies are working together on joint
>> proposals.”
>> The proponents:
>> Samsung and Sony
>> Canada’s Communications Research Centre and South Korea’s Electronics and
>> Telecommunications Research Institute
>> Qualcomm and Ericsson
>> LG and Harris Broadcast
>> China’s National Engineering Research Center of Digital Television, Shanghai
>> Jiao Tong University, Shanghai Advance Research Institute, Chinese Academy
>> of Sciences and Bell Labs
>> Allen Limberg
>> Technicolor
>> Sinclair Broadcast Group and Coherent Logix
>> DVB
>> Power Broadcasting
>> Peter Siebert, executive director of the Digital Video Broadcast (DVB)
>> project in Geneva, Switzerland, said he expected ATSC to adopt a standard
>> that would be based around DVB’s technology.
>> His group submitted a near blueprint of the existing standard, while others,
>> based on interviews with proposal authors, made alterations and added
>> enhancements to the standard.
>> Allen Limberg, the lone individual to submit a proposal, would keep DVB-T2
>> nearly as-is, but would modify the way data is sent to improve
>> frequency-selective fading. Limberg is an inventor and engineer whose past
>> employers included RCA, GE and Samsung. The 76-year-old has authored 152
>> U.S. patents in the radio electronics field during his career.
>> Technicolor, a global media and entertainment technology company, submitted
>> a proposal with DVB-T2 at its core, but wants to bring in mobile
>> transmission capabilities found in DVB-NGH, which stands for Next Generation
>> Handheld. NGH is a relatively new DVB effort to address specific issues with
>> mobile transmission found in DVB-T2, says Alan Stein, VP technology at
>> Technicolor.
>> “ATSC’s ambition is for a fixed and a mobile solution, and we believe by
>> incorporating some of the NGH elements, as well as updating certain things
>> in T2 that are known to be slightly deficient, we can put together a system
>> that has a high degree of worldwide compatibility and additionally be
>> optimal for a fixed and mobile terrestrial broadcast system,” says Stein.
>> Stein declined to comment on specific DVB-T2 deficiencies that Technicolor
>> believes could be improved upon until the detailed responses come in next
>> month.
>> A proposal put together by Canada’s Communications Research Centre (CRC) and
>> South Korea’s Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute, two
>> government-funded research labs, wasn’t for a complete end-to-end system,
>> rather, it was designed as an add-on to enhance whichever standard is
>> ultimately selected by the ATSC.
>> Yiyan Wu, a research scientist at CRC, says both teams recognized that most
>> of the proposals would likely include DVB-T2 at the core, which uses
>> co-orthogonal frequency-division multiplexing (COFDM) as a modulation scheme.
>> “I can see our proposed model being added to almost any of the proposed
>> systems and be harmonized together,” says Wu. “Think of it as a top layer
>> solution that can go on a T2, or other high-speed transmission system.”
>> Mark Aitken, VP advanced technology at Sinclair, says the joint
>> Sinclair-Coherent system uses a “parameterized” approach and has an ability
>> to evolve the standard over time. “There is a go-forward, evolutionary path
>> with what we’ve proposed,” says Aitken.
>> The proposed system integrates the broadcast band and IP networks together
>> with an aim of making it easy for consumers to receive content on any device
>> over a terrestrial broadcast, which is one of the big goals of ATSC 3.0.
>> To make both ends of system — DVB-T2 on one end and LTE on the other — work
>> seamlessly together, the two organizations spent the last three years
>> developing what they call the Broadcast Market Exchange (BMX).
>> BMX is a rules-based intelligent network that’s open in the sense that it’s
>> a marketplace where different content and different delivery methods, chosen
>> by an individual broadcaster, may derive different business values based on
>> the nature of business being conducted.
>> “The BMX is the orchestra leader that says these resources are available
>> here, they can be contracted on these terms, you’ve already set your terms
>> for delivery, and off it goes,” says Aitken. “To the end-user, it’s
>> invisible, in every literal sense that when you use a cellphone today, you
>> pick it up, dial in a number and you talk. You don’t worry about how it
>> ended up that you’re having a conversation. We’re talking about that same
>> level of transparency to the end-user that allows broadcasting to engage in
>> business models that today are absolutely impossible.”
>> Under Sinclair’s proposal, if a broadcaster, for example, wanted to
>> broadcast premium content over-the-air, it could set up rules to charge for
>> that content to that user.
>> Aitken says the best part about his system is that nothing in it is
>> mandatory.
>> “If a broadcaster wants to be on an island and thinks it has better
>> economics as an island, you can still do what you’re doing today,” he says.
>> Aitken also says he was disappointed by the lack of diversity in the other
>> proposals.
>> “They are all absolute dead-ending proposals,” says Aitken. “In other words,
>> if you’ve got the best you can get out of DVB-T2, with some enhancements, it
>> would most definitely be an improvement over where we are today, but what
>> happens in five years when the next greatest technology comes along and
>> you’re stuck where you are?”
>> For its proposal, San Diego-based telecommunications company Qualcomm, which
>> partnered with Ericsson, stepped outside the DVB-T2 bubble. The companies
>> proposed a standard that would allow a TV station to broadcast over LTE,
>> just as wireless carriers use the technology today to send and receive data
>> from mobile devices.
>> According to Brent Nelson, product manager at Qualcomm, both companies
>> believe LTE broadcast is the best option to reach fixed and mobile devices,
>> and demoed the technology at the CES and NAB trade shows in Las Vegas
>> earlier this year.
>> “The use of LTE enables an all-IP solution that brings broadcast television
>> into technical alignment with the future of streaming media,” Nelson said in
>> an email to TVNewsCheck. Because LTE is used globally, he added, it would
>> achieve one of the goals of ATSC 3.0 that calls for a more global standard.
>> It’s unclear if Qualcomm and Ericsson’s solution would use an enhanced or
>> modified version of existing LTE technology. Nelson declined comment on
>> specifics until a more detailed proposal has been submitted next month.
>> LG, the developer of the current ATSC transmission standard, teamed up with
>> Harris Broadcast to submit a system, but declined to talk about it.
>> “Our innovations are designed to expand the capabilities of today’s ATSC
>> terrestrial broadcast system with modulation and coding enhancements for
>> improved throughput and robustness," a spokesman for LG said.
>> South Australian-based Power Broadcasting, a telecommunications consulting
>> firm, submitted a proposal for DVB-T2 with modified coding for error
>> correction. However, Max Power, the founder of Power Broadcasting, says that
>> ATSC has already contacted him saying that his proposal was out of
>> compliance with the RFP.
>> A spokesperson for Sony, which partnered with Samsung on a proposal, had no
>> immediate comment.
>> Most of the system proponents contacted for this article say they expect the
>> proponents to mix and match elements from the various proposals and come up
>> with a single common system. That was the approach that yielded the current
>> ATSC standard in the 1990s.
>> But not everyone thought that was a good idea. “I wouldn’t expect another
>> grand alliance,” says Aitken. “I’d hope, this time around, for a grand
>> convergence that allows the best of the class ideas to exist alongside each
>> other.”
>> Work has already begun on the two other layers of the complete standard —
>> management and protocols, and application and presentation. But there’s no
>> schedule for the call for proposals for those layers, says Richer.
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