I wonder why no one thought of that at the time. On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Mike Tsinberg <Mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > We could have COFDM right from the beginning of ATSC. > > Best Regards, > Mike Tsinberg > http://keydigital.com > > On Aug 30, 2013, at 9:50 PM, "Mark Aitken" <MAitken@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/70091/nextgen-tv-standard-dvb-with-a-twist/page/1 > **** > > <image001.png> <http://www.tvnewscheck.com/>**** > > Tech Sportlight **** > > *Next-Gen TV Standard: DVB With A Twist?* > > By Andrew Dodson <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> **** > > TVNewsCheck, August 29, 2013 11:26 AM EDT **** > > Most of the 10 proposals for a next-generation TV standard submitted to > the Advanced Television Systems Committee last week are based on the > DVB-T2, the European broadcast standard.**** > > The proposals, representing the work on 18 organizations and one > individual, are for the standard's "physical layer" — the component that > deals with the actual over-the-air transmission.**** > > Detailed versions of the proposals are due Sept. 27.**** > > The ATSC's goal is to develop a standard that generates a signal robust > enough to be received on smartphones and tablets and on TV sets with indoor > antennas virtually anywhere. The ATSC also wants the standard to give > broadcasters a platform to implement advanced services like 4K, 3D and > interactivity.**** > > ATSC is on a timetable to adopt a final standard by 2016. It would take > several years after that to implement.**** > > Organizations that submitted a proposal included television manufacturers, > broadcast equipment manufacturers, international research groups, one > individual and one broadcaster, Sinclair Broadcast Group.**** > > “I’m very pleased with all of the responses,” says Mark Richer, president > of ATSC. “There’s a great range of companies, a lot of support, and it’s > always really interesting to see which companies are working together on > joint proposals.”**** > > The proponents:**** > > - Samsung and Sony**** > - Canada’s Communications Research Centre and South Korea’s > Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute**** > - Qualcomm and Ericsson**** > - LG and Harris Broadcast**** > - China’s National Engineering Research Center of Digital Television, > Shanghai Jiao Tong University, Shanghai Advance Research Institute, Chinese > Academy of Sciences and Bell Labs**** > - Allen Limberg**** > - Technicolor**** > - Sinclair Broadcast Group and Coherent Logix**** > - DVB**** > - Power Broadcasting**** > > Peter Siebert, executive director of the Digital Video Broadcast (DVB) > project in Geneva, Switzerland, said he expected ATSC to adopt a standard > that would be based around DVB’s technology.**** > > His group submitted a near blueprint of the existing standard, while > others, based on interviews with proposal authors, made alterations and > added enhancements to the standard.**** > > Allen Limberg, the lone individual to submit a proposal, would keep DVB-T2 > nearly as-is, but would modify the way data is sent to improve > frequency-selective fading. Limberg is an inventor and engineer whose past > employers included RCA, GE and Samsung. The 76-year-old has authored 152 > U.S. patents in the radio electronics field during his career.**** > > Technicolor, a global media and entertainment technology company, > submitted a proposal with DVB-T2 at its core, but wants to bring in mobile > transmission capabilities found in DVB-NGH, which stands for Next > Generation Handheld. NGH is a relatively new DVB effort to address specific > issues with mobile transmission found in DVB-T2, says Alan Stein, VP > technology at Technicolor.**** > > “ATSC’s ambition is for a fixed and a mobile solution, and we believe by > incorporating some of the NGH elements, as well as updating certain things > in T2 that are known to be slightly deficient, we can put together a system > that has a high degree of worldwide compatibility and additionally be > optimal for a fixed and mobile terrestrial broadcast system,” says Stein.* > *** > > Stein declined to comment on specific DVB-T2 deficiencies that Technicolor > believes could be improved upon until the detailed responses come in next > month.**** > > A proposal put together by Canada’s Communications Research Centre (CRC) > and South Korea’s Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute, > two government-funded research labs, wasn’t for a complete end-to-end > system, rather, it was designed as an add-on to enhance whichever standard > is ultimately selected by the ATSC.**** > > Yiyan Wu, a research scientist at CRC, says both teams recognized that > most of the proposals would likely include DVB-T2 at the core, which uses > co-orthogonal frequency-division multiplexing (COFDM) as a modulation > scheme.**** > > “I can see our proposed model being added to almost any of the proposed > systems and be harmonized together,” says Wu. “Think of it as a top layer > solution that can go on a T2, or other high-speed transmission system.”*** > * > > Mark Aitken, VP advanced technology at Sinclair, says the joint > Sinclair-Coherent system uses a “parameterized” approach and has an ability > to evolve the standard over time. “There is a go-forward, evolutionary path > with what we’ve proposed,” says Aitken.**** > > The proposed system integrates the broadcast band and IP networks together > with an aim of making it easy for consumers to receive content on any > device over a terrestrial broadcast, which is one of the big goals of ATSC > 3.0.**** > > To make both ends of system — DVB-T2 on one end and LTE on the other — > work seamlessly together, the two organizations spent the last three years > developing what they call the Broadcast Market Exchange (BMX).**** > > BMX is a rules-based intelligent network that’s open in the sense that > it’s a marketplace where different content and different delivery methods, > chosen by an individual broadcaster, may derive different business values > based on the nature of business being conducted.**** > > “The BMX is the orchestra leader that says these resources are available > here, they can be contracted on these terms, you’ve already set your terms > for delivery, and off it goes,” says Aitken. “To the end-user, it’s > invisible, in every literal sense that when you use a cellphone today, you > pick it up, dial in a number and you talk. You don’t worry about how it > ended up that you’re having a conversation. We’re talking about that same > level of transparency to the end-user that allows broadcasting to engage in > business models that today are absolutely impossible.”**** > > Under Sinclair’s proposal, if a broadcaster, for example, wanted to > broadcast premium content over-the-air, it could set up rules to charge for > that content to that user.**** > > Aitken says the best part about his system is that nothing in it is > mandatory.**** > > “If a broadcaster wants to be on an island and thinks it has better > economics as an island, you can still do what you’re doing today,” he says. > **** > > Aitken also says he was disappointed by the lack of diversity in the other > proposals.**** > > “They are all absolute dead-ending proposals,” says Aitken. “In other > words, if you’ve got the best you can get out of DVB-T2, with some > enhancements, it would most definitely be an improvement over where we are > today, but what happens in five years when the next greatest technology > comes along and you’re stuck where you are?”**** > > For its proposal, San Diego-based telecommunications company Qualcomm, > which partnered with Ericsson, stepped outside the DVB-T2 bubble. The > companies proposed a standard that would allow a TV station to broadcast > over LTE, just as wireless carriers use the technology today to send and > receive data from mobile devices.**** > > According to Brent Nelson, product manager at Qualcomm, both companies > believe LTE broadcast is the best option to reach fixed and mobile devices, > and demoed the technology at the CES and NAB trade shows in Las Vegas > earlier this year.**** > > “The use of LTE enables an all-IP solution that brings broadcast > television into technical alignment with the future of streaming media,” > Nelson said in an email to TVNewsCheck. Because LTE is used globally, he > added, it would achieve one of the goals of ATSC 3.0 that calls for a more > global standard.**** > > It’s unclear if Qualcomm and Ericsson’s solution would use an enhanced or > modified version of existing LTE technology. Nelson declined comment on > specifics until a more detailed proposal has been submitted next month.*** > * > > LG, the developer of the current ATSC transmission standard, teamed up > with Harris Broadcast to submit a system, but declined to talk about it.** > ** > > “Our innovations are designed to expand the capabilities of today’s ATSC > terrestrial broadcast system with modulation and coding enhancements for > improved throughput and robustness," a spokesman for LG said.**** > > South Australian-based Power Broadcasting, a telecommunications consulting > firm, submitted a proposal for DVB-T2 with modified coding for error > correction. However, Max Power, the founder of Power Broadcasting, says > that ATSC has already contacted him saying that his proposal was out of > compliance with the RFP.**** > > A spokesperson for Sony, which partnered with Samsung on a proposal, had > no immediate comment.**** > > Most of the system proponents contacted for this article say they expect > the proponents to mix and match elements from the various proposals and > come up with a single common system. That was the approach that yielded the > current ATSC standard in the 1990s.**** > > But not everyone thought that was a good idea. “I wouldn’t expect another > grand alliance,” says Aitken. “I’d hope, this time around, for a grand > convergence that allows the best of the class ideas to exist alongside each > other.”**** > > Work has already begun on the two other layers of the complete standard — > management and protocols, and application and presentation. But there’s no > schedule for the call for proposals for those layers, says Richer.**** > > ** ** > > -- Bob Miller 954-551-1217 3111 N. Ocean Dr. Apt 1607 Hollywood Beach Florida 33019