[opendtv] Re: WAS: --FCC OKs WiFi between TV channels

  • From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:15:58 -0400

For the most part my intent in purchasing the QAM PCHD card was just 
getting the unencrypted network channels more reliably without more 
antenna fiddling.  Everyone on this list has heard my laments at being 
unable to watch/record OTA Angel (now canceled) in HD.  Of course 
Comcast in my area does not yet carry WB in HD anyway, but I can hope. 
   And there is still Smallville.

And INHD (1&2) and ESPN may or not be encrypted here in Jacksonville. 
  I can't tell for sure since reception on the F3Q card is so poor on 
those channels.  But I'm not yet subscribing to Comcast in anything 
more than the limited basic that I get at a negative cost with my 
broadband service so there may still be filters on my line.  I'll 
experiment more when I get the time.  But I can now receive and 
(usually) record ABC, NBC, and CBS from QAM HD cable.

- Tom



Kon wrote:

>>I suspect that by now, most of them have figured it out. It might seem like
> 
> good marketing hype to advertise such a thing as digital cable-ready, but
> when the consumer finds out that's not true, he's likely to return it and
> get his money back.
> 
> True. However I don't see people doing that on many of the HDTV/DTV tuner
> card forums. I do see lots of people saying 'it should be in the clear',
> 'complain to <your provider>' and 'you should get the locals unencrypted'. 
> 
> I also see a lot of 'it's the broadcaster's fault' type rants and
> blame-games. I can't tell if the people doing this have a vested interest
> with the company selling the card, but I will say that a lot of them are
> full of it yet held in high esteem. To me that's the blind misleading the
> blind.
>  
> 
>>We went through this years ago with so-called "VSB/QAM" demod chips. Maybe
> 
> at the time, some of those chipmakers just didn't know. Or maybe they
> figured the small incremental cost to add QAM to an 8-VSB was worthwhile to
> somebody somewhere. That one always puzzled me -- if you can't use the QAM
> feature, how can it have any value? Either leave it out, or add the
> out-of-band demod and CableCard interface so that it truly is digital
> cable-ready.
>  
> Even if there somehow was a card with a cablecard interface, it still
> wouldn't fly - there is no secure video path to the display. Ofcourse,
> solutions like our SVP processor address this, but I can't see a consumer
> going out and buying a new video card *and* a tuner card at the same time,
> let alone the fact that such a solution will never happen because the user
> has too much control over the system (well, perhaps under palladium, or via
> a solution that only works on PC devices and isn't used for broadcast
> (pirates and hackers don't need a testbed)). The only other option is
> loop-through, but that means analog VGA, and we can't have that now can we
> (besides the fact that displays are getting higher in resolution and for all
> intent purposes loop-through VGA kind of.. well.. sucks).
> 
> Cheers
> Kon
> 
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