There are 20 different models of Digital OTA receiver/PVR combo units listed on this website, offered for sale in a country of 20 million people. http://www.dba.org.au/index.asp?sectionID=18&so=3&sd=asc Maybe some day one of these same companies will make boxes for the up to 20 million US TVHHs that rely solely on OTA reception. TGIF Bert, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> > When reasonably priced and good recording devices with > integrated ATSC receivers become available, such as DVDRs > or maybe PVRs with 5th gen LG or better receiver, which > make use of PSIP, of course that's what I'd buy. Until > then, I'm certainly not going to become dependent on some > proprietary dial-in scheme with monthly fee. That's > crazy. Recording is far too trivial a job to warrant that > kind of dependency. > > Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.